1 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:49,850 foreign 2 00:01:55,789 --> 00:01:52,740 hey everybody thank you for being here 3 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:55,799 40 people pretty good pretty good I know 4 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,600 I delayed but I've been working on the 5 00:02:02,270 --> 00:02:00,000 uh transcript all day enough of that let 6 00:02:04,249 --> 00:02:02,280 me get in uh Michael bye 7 00:02:06,530 --> 00:02:04,259 hey Michael how you doing 8 00:02:07,969 --> 00:02:06,540 Hey Joe I'm good how are you I'm glad 9 00:02:10,190 --> 00:02:07,979 you could join me at the last minute let 10 00:02:14,210 --> 00:02:10,200 me bring in Jess hello Jessica you're 11 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:14,220 you're muted hey you guys 12 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:16,800 glad you can make it thank you Michael 13 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:18,480 has limited time so let me just let him 14 00:02:23,630 --> 00:02:21,060 go Michael what'd you think of uh 15 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:23,640 Dr Gary Nolan on Tucker Carlson today 16 00:02:27,170 --> 00:02:25,260 which nobody knew was coming until it 17 00:02:28,430 --> 00:02:27,180 was posted and uh just just your 18 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,440 thoughts because I just took notes 19 00:02:32,990 --> 00:02:30,480 finished it and it was really good for a 20 00:02:36,830 --> 00:02:33,000 mainstream audience 21 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:36,840 yeah I thought uh 22 00:02:41,390 --> 00:02:38,940 well to use a phrase I thought the 23 00:02:43,309 --> 00:02:41,400 mustard came off the hot dog with that 24 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:43,319 interview 25 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:45,300 um 26 00:02:50,210 --> 00:02:48,599 you know maybe Gary would laugh at this 27 00:02:52,449 --> 00:02:50,220 but 28 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:52,459 either somebody 29 00:02:58,610 --> 00:02:55,440 cleared him to 30 00:03:00,110 --> 00:02:58,620 say everything he said he I don't think 31 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:00,120 he said anything we've never heard 32 00:03:03,589 --> 00:03:01,560 before 33 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:03,599 but we've never heard it all come from 34 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:06,480 one of the most um 35 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:10,200 reliable sources someone who I don't 36 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:12,000 believe he's he's never given any 37 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:14,220 indication that I'm aware of that he's 38 00:03:21,229 --> 00:03:17,340 actually read into some program 39 00:03:22,910 --> 00:03:21,239 he and he he spoke about the CIA 40 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:22,920 approaching him 41 00:03:28,490 --> 00:03:25,560 right at the beginning that in a way 42 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:28,500 that indicated that I mean if they 43 00:03:33,530 --> 00:03:30,900 approached me there's things that I 44 00:03:36,770 --> 00:03:33,540 wouldn't say about totally unrelated 45 00:03:41,149 --> 00:03:36,780 things in my professional past without 46 00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:41,159 first being cleared to do so so I'm 47 00:03:46,490 --> 00:03:44,700 thinking either he was green lighted or 48 00:03:49,070 --> 00:03:46,500 perhaps and this is obviously 49 00:03:50,509 --> 00:03:49,080 speculation he would have to answer this 50 00:03:53,690 --> 00:03:50,519 but um 51 00:03:56,210 --> 00:03:53,700 you know maybe he sat around maybe he 52 00:03:58,670 --> 00:03:56,220 talked to Hal and Eric Davis and kid 53 00:04:01,729 --> 00:03:58,680 green and others 54 00:04:04,130 --> 00:04:01,739 and had the opinion that you know I'm 55 00:04:07,009 --> 00:04:04,140 not read in they have not made me sign 56 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:07,019 an NDA around this 57 00:04:13,369 --> 00:04:10,799 what can I say I I why can't I say all 58 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:13,379 this I'm I'm involved in open University 59 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:16,320 level research in stuff that's connected 60 00:04:20,689 --> 00:04:18,180 to this phenomenon 61 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,699 because if he if he wasn't clear to say 62 00:04:24,650 --> 00:04:22,560 it he wouldn't have said what he said 63 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:24,660 right or if he didn't feel he could have 64 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:26,400 said what he said he wouldn't have said 65 00:04:33,409 --> 00:04:30,000 it he's um I just thought that was 66 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:33,419 interesting and maybe uh you know this 67 00:04:37,370 --> 00:04:35,820 sort of speculation is is he might view 68 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:37,380 it as pointless he might say well hey 69 00:04:41,689 --> 00:04:40,080 this I'm an open researcher like he 70 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:41,699 talked about I traveled to Boston and 71 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:43,380 have dinner with these other physicists 72 00:04:49,249 --> 00:04:46,560 after after you know the day job is done 73 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:49,259 and they approached me and asked me 74 00:04:53,629 --> 00:04:51,600 questions about the phenomenon and it's 75 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:53,639 an openly discussed topic his 76 00:04:58,010 --> 00:04:55,500 involvement he's been pretty open about 77 00:04:59,689 --> 00:04:58,020 I just thought that was fascinating so 78 00:05:08,270 --> 00:04:59,699 if he can 79 00:05:10,189 --> 00:05:08,280 with such veracity because of who he is 80 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:10,199 and what he does 81 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:11,039 um 82 00:05:16,189 --> 00:05:13,199 you know that's pretty compelling then I 83 00:05:17,930 --> 00:05:16,199 would say well okay what there's maybe 84 00:05:21,170 --> 00:05:17,940 there maybe the limit is reached when 85 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:21,180 you talk about Kit Hal and Eric Davis 86 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:24,600 because maybe they're briefed and read 87 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:27,240 in and have signed an NDA and clearly 88 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:29,940 Eric says that he has 89 00:05:32,330 --> 00:05:31,199 um and that's the difference between 90 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,340 them 91 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:34,800 I'm I don't know it would be interesting 92 00:05:39,230 --> 00:05:37,740 questions to ask Gary Nolan I mean I 93 00:05:41,150 --> 00:05:39,240 thought the same thing when he came out 94 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:41,160 I'm like it seems like and it may not be 95 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:43,380 some official or you know some official 96 00:05:47,090 --> 00:05:45,120 somewhere where like okay you guys here 97 00:05:48,830 --> 00:05:47,100 let's go let's push the ball down down 98 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:48,840 the court it might be just be among 99 00:05:52,730 --> 00:05:51,060 themselves saying listen we've talked 100 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:52,740 about this and look at the media 101 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,199 interest it's so far pretty minimal we 102 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:57,120 have one person who's interested in 103 00:06:00,650 --> 00:05:59,039 let's take it a little further so Gary 104 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:00,660 talk about you know feel free to talk 105 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:03,120 about this and for me the most 106 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:05,220 interesting thing he spoke about 107 00:06:09,050 --> 00:06:07,440 as he says the folks in the Intel 108 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:09,060 Community one of their leading 109 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:12,000 hypotheses hypothesis is 110 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:15,120 that whatever this is uses avatars in 111 00:06:18,529 --> 00:06:16,740 place of the real intelligence which 112 00:06:20,270 --> 00:06:18,539 I've which I've called a proxy 113 00:06:22,189 --> 00:06:20,280 intelligence which is really to me is 114 00:06:24,590 --> 00:06:22,199 really interesting 115 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:24,600 um and also he talked about you know how 116 00:06:27,409 --> 00:06:25,860 he didn't get into some of the real 117 00:06:28,670 --> 00:06:27,419 negative stuff he's gotten into other on 118 00:06:30,770 --> 00:06:28,680 other shows where he said hey it's 119 00:06:32,689 --> 00:06:30,780 possible we could be farm animals to 120 00:06:34,129 --> 00:06:32,699 them I think that's too much for our 121 00:06:36,050 --> 00:06:34,139 Tucker Carlson interview but he has 122 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:36,060 spoken about that before 123 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:39,060 um Jess quick what did you think overall 124 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,180 uh well I think that you guys hit the 125 00:06:46,129 --> 00:06:44,400 nail on the head because the immediate 126 00:06:47,689 --> 00:06:46,139 fresh impression that I got after 127 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:47,699 listening to it was 128 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:50,639 Gary Nolan is a jack of all trades at 129 00:06:55,249 --> 00:06:53,039 this point uh some of the topics he 130 00:06:56,629 --> 00:06:55,259 covered uh he talked about nuclear 131 00:06:59,330 --> 00:06:56,639 incursions 132 00:07:02,689 --> 00:06:59,340 um biological issues the sonar radar 133 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:02,699 imagery the Wilson docks uh avatars 134 00:07:07,370 --> 00:07:05,039 robots he covered religion unfair 135 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:07,380 bidding practices uh stigma 136 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:10,620 disinformation obfuscation and we know 137 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:12,960 that he also helped write some of the 138 00:07:17,629 --> 00:07:14,460 immunity 139 00:07:20,510 --> 00:07:17,639 verbiage so he's all over the place this 140 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:20,520 is an immunologist but he is not really 141 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:23,280 playing that only that role at the 142 00:07:26,270 --> 00:07:24,240 moment 143 00:07:28,129 --> 00:07:26,280 give me your take with Michael here and 144 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:28,139 he could debate it or discuss it better 145 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:30,240 than I can your take on you were talking 146 00:07:34,249 --> 00:07:32,160 about the nuclear information what you 147 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:34,259 thought might be going on there you know 148 00:07:37,010 --> 00:07:35,580 we were debating it the other night you 149 00:07:38,270 --> 00:07:37,020 and I just just touch on that really 150 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:38,280 quick I just want to get Michael's take 151 00:07:42,370 --> 00:07:40,160 on it 152 00:07:45,529 --> 00:07:42,380 would you say the nuclear information 153 00:07:46,909 --> 00:07:45,539 Refreshments yes Jess had has a it was 154 00:07:49,309 --> 00:07:46,919 talking about how 155 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:49,319 she didn't think you know Jess just talk 156 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:50,400 about what you talked about we were 157 00:07:54,529 --> 00:07:51,900 saying we thought that these UFOs were 158 00:07:56,330 --> 00:07:54,539 shutting off nuclear uh missiles maybe 159 00:07:58,129 --> 00:07:56,340 maybe to send a message and you had a 160 00:08:02,510 --> 00:07:58,139 different idea on that 161 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:02,520 well earlier uh Gary spoke about 162 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,120 maybe we're a threat to the aliens 163 00:08:09,650 --> 00:08:07,919 because of our nuclear capabilities he 164 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:09,660 said that you know if we set off a 165 00:08:15,850 --> 00:08:14,220 nuclear bomb uh even aliens wouldn't be 166 00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:15,860 able to hide from that 167 00:08:21,890 --> 00:08:19,319 but what I was saying to you a couple of 168 00:08:24,650 --> 00:08:21,900 nights ago is well if they're shutting 169 00:08:27,529 --> 00:08:24,660 down our nuclear capabilities 170 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:27,539 you know look at Robert Salas he has 171 00:08:33,050 --> 00:08:29,220 gone and spoke about that time and time 172 00:08:33,889 --> 00:08:33,060 again Robert Hastings uh Luis Elizondo 173 00:08:35,810 --> 00:08:33,899 um 174 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:35,820 Salas even 175 00:08:41,810 --> 00:08:38,640 was at the Brazil 176 00:08:44,509 --> 00:08:41,820 um hearings and he he gave his testimony 177 00:08:47,389 --> 00:08:44,519 on that so if they're able to shut down 178 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:47,399 our nuclear facilities why would they be 179 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:49,080 afraid of us 180 00:09:01,810 --> 00:08:58,490 why would they be worried about other 181 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:01,820 things that we do in the nuclear Arena 182 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:03,720 if 183 00:09:07,130 --> 00:09:06,540 wasn't it Nolan that said 184 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:07,140 um 185 00:09:13,150 --> 00:09:10,080 I mean he he dropped so many he broke so 186 00:09:17,210 --> 00:09:13,160 many eggs in the making of This omelet 187 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:17,220 uh that I I quit I didn't even start and 188 00:09:23,090 --> 00:09:20,160 hats off to Jess for notating every 189 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:23,100 great point that he or topic that he 190 00:09:27,710 --> 00:09:25,200 threw out there things that were 191 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:27,720 seemingly Taboo in in mainstream media 192 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:30,480 and he was just laying it down one after 193 00:09:36,769 --> 00:09:33,660 the other topicality wise 194 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,779 um but I thought he I thought he said 195 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:39,120 maybe I'm confusing it with someone else 196 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:40,500 recently 197 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:41,760 that 198 00:09:47,150 --> 00:09:43,200 um 199 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:47,160 it is the nuclear the effects of of 200 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:49,440 nuclear weapons 201 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:50,880 um 202 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:54,480 is the one thing if they are not 203 00:09:58,670 --> 00:09:56,640 from some if they are not 204 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:58,680 extraterrestrial 205 00:10:04,190 --> 00:10:01,200 maybe it was house paper 206 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:04,200 maybe I'm confusing it a house paper is 207 00:10:08,329 --> 00:10:06,180 another one that covered all subjects 208 00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:08,339 possible it's kind of weird that both of 209 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:09,480 these guys come out the same week 210 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:11,760 covering pretty much everything that's a 211 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:13,560 good point but I maybe it was house 212 00:10:19,550 --> 00:10:16,860 paper but regardless the the the the 213 00:10:21,970 --> 00:10:19,560 stream of thought was 214 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:21,980 maybe they're not 215 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:24,800 extraterrestrial maybe they're actually 216 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:27,600 cohabitating in some way the planet and 217 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:30,540 and Gary laid out quite a bit of 218 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:34,200 information that tends to sort of uh 219 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:36,540 support that when Tucker said are these 220 00:10:39,710 --> 00:10:38,100 things really being seen in our oceans 221 00:10:42,410 --> 00:10:39,720 he's like oh yeah 222 00:10:44,690 --> 00:10:42,420 you know he was matter of fact about it 223 00:10:47,090 --> 00:10:44,700 and talked about the the sonar data the 224 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:47,100 sonar pictures they didn't get any 225 00:10:54,530 --> 00:10:50,880 acoustic data but they got a a sonar 226 00:10:58,190 --> 00:10:54,540 picture maybe a screenshot of what was 227 00:10:59,990 --> 00:10:58,200 going on on the waterfall display is it 228 00:11:01,550 --> 00:11:00,000 uh if you've ever seen a waterfall 229 00:11:03,650 --> 00:11:01,560 display if you've ever used a 230 00:11:06,110 --> 00:11:03,660 software-defined radio the frequency 231 00:11:08,509 --> 00:11:06,120 flows down like a waterfall and you see 232 00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:08,519 a spike you click on it and you can 233 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:10,860 listen to whatever it is whether it's 234 00:11:15,530 --> 00:11:13,980 somebody with a ham radio or police are 235 00:11:17,449 --> 00:11:15,540 typically encrypted now but anyway you 236 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:17,459 you can visually see what's going on in 237 00:11:21,530 --> 00:11:19,680 this in the electromagnetic spectrum and 238 00:11:24,170 --> 00:11:21,540 what he was alluding to is these sonar 239 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:24,180 waterfall displays which are acoustic 240 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:26,160 displaying acoustic 241 00:11:32,030 --> 00:11:29,220 sensor data 242 00:11:34,009 --> 00:11:32,040 apparently picked up at least one 243 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:34,019 instance of something going what did he 244 00:11:40,730 --> 00:11:36,480 say 12 times the speed of our fastest 245 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:40,740 nuclear submarine yeah so how would they 246 00:11:48,829 --> 00:11:42,779 uh we've talked before about some of 247 00:11:53,150 --> 00:11:51,470 you got muted somehow 248 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:53,160 what the heck I Lost You There Michael 249 00:12:00,769 --> 00:11:56,160 how about now yep you're back 250 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:00,779 okay anyway uh these systems uh our 251 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:02,399 national systems 252 00:12:08,449 --> 00:12:05,160 without going into great detail they 253 00:12:12,290 --> 00:12:08,459 have to be tasked and tuned 254 00:12:15,230 --> 00:12:12,300 and and and committed to collect on 255 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:15,240 something uh and they have to reference 256 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:16,980 what they collect whether it's an 257 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:19,980 infrared hit or whatever 258 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:22,560 uh to something in a known database 259 00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:24,660 that's been compiled of known things 260 00:12:29,690 --> 00:12:27,000 recognizable things so that that system 261 00:12:31,850 --> 00:12:29,700 can automatically send out reports to 262 00:12:33,650 --> 00:12:31,860 troops in the field and whatever on what 263 00:12:36,889 --> 00:12:33,660 it's seeing 264 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:36,899 um so by the same token these sonar 265 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:38,100 operators 266 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:41,279 now I was never a Submariner but 267 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:43,740 from what I understand you know the same 268 00:12:49,449 --> 00:12:45,720 thing goes on there they have a massive 269 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:49,459 database of cataloged acoustical events 270 00:12:53,449 --> 00:12:52,320 subsurface around the world in the 271 00:12:56,269 --> 00:12:53,459 oceans 272 00:13:00,350 --> 00:12:56,279 and so this thing 273 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:00,360 was visible on the waterfall display 274 00:13:03,769 --> 00:13:01,260 um 275 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:03,779 and how did they know what it was you 276 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:05,160 know they must 277 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:08,399 it's I would just speculate that as long 278 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:10,200 as we've been patrolling the oceans with 279 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:12,540 nuclear submarines and otherwise 280 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:15,839 uh for decades there's a giant catalog 281 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:17,940 database you know a database that 282 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:19,740 catalogs all these different 283 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:21,839 acoustical hits 284 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:24,600 um so back to the nuclear question 285 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:27,120 I think it was put off that that's 286 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:28,800 let me just interrupt I'm going to go in 287 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:30,180 that direction you could follow up what 288 00:13:35,930 --> 00:13:33,120 I what I say um somebody I spoke to said 289 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:35,940 don't assume that they're omniscient 290 00:13:40,189 --> 00:13:37,440 um when they're shutting down the nukes 291 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:40,199 sure they can shut them down but that in 292 00:13:44,210 --> 00:13:41,940 a way was a directed operation don't 293 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:44,220 assume they they can know everything at 294 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,500 all times including the unexpected I 295 00:13:50,410 --> 00:13:48,480 doubt that so yeah just because they can 296 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:50,420 shut up 297 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:52,440 doesn't mean they can stop us from 298 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:54,720 setting off a nuke anytime we want I 299 00:13:59,870 --> 00:13:56,639 mean it can't be I'm not gonna go there 300 00:14:02,449 --> 00:13:59,880 yeah well I mean I I would think though 301 00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:02,459 perhaps it's a it's a will it's a 302 00:14:08,030 --> 00:14:03,420 witting 303 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:08,040 attempt to demonstrate a capability 304 00:14:13,250 --> 00:14:11,220 okay maybe they are maybe we can move 305 00:14:17,629 --> 00:14:13,260 these things around like mobile missiles 306 00:14:19,970 --> 00:14:17,639 and our Command centers and we can be uh 307 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:19,980 obscure enough about it to be able to 308 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:23,220 hide from them or anyone else so the 309 00:14:28,810 --> 00:14:25,860 Russians are Chinese or whatever 310 00:14:33,530 --> 00:14:28,820 um and maybe they're not 311 00:14:36,290 --> 00:14:33,540 omnipotent or omnipresent uh but they if 312 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:36,300 they find something they can enter they 313 00:14:40,670 --> 00:14:39,180 can influence it that maybe that was a 314 00:14:42,410 --> 00:14:40,680 demonstration that they can influence it 315 00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:42,420 they may not have control total control 316 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:45,180 but maybe they're just influencing to 317 00:14:51,230 --> 00:14:48,420 show that hey but if you go to you know 318 00:14:53,689 --> 00:14:51,240 and and put off paper speculates that 319 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:53,699 well if they're actually here if they've 320 00:14:59,389 --> 00:14:56,639 actually been here since recorded human 321 00:15:02,509 --> 00:14:59,399 history or before they're cohabitating 322 00:15:04,009 --> 00:15:02,519 in some way on this planet it's what he 323 00:15:05,290 --> 00:15:04,019 speculates as one thread of 324 00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:05,300 Investigation 325 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:08,639 then it sort of makes sense as he spells 326 00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:10,500 it out that the one thing that could 327 00:15:18,350 --> 00:15:13,920 really screw up their world and Ours is 328 00:15:21,769 --> 00:15:18,360 altering the DNA strains as nuclear 329 00:15:23,930 --> 00:15:21,779 explosions tend to do in humans and in 330 00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:23,940 animals it is the one thing that has 331 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:25,980 significant deleterious effects on 332 00:15:30,050 --> 00:15:27,360 living species 333 00:15:31,069 --> 00:15:30,060 plants and animals and could be the 334 00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:31,079 ultimate 335 00:15:35,389 --> 00:15:33,720 poisoned in the water literally and 336 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:35,399 figuratively 337 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:37,740 um that we that they may view us being 338 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:39,480 sort of careless about 339 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:46,610 um I would say at the moment the 340 00:15:52,610 --> 00:15:49,500 narrative is all over the place 341 00:15:54,290 --> 00:15:52,620 we are constantly contradicting 342 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:54,300 ourselves every single day with uh 343 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:56,339 different statements uh what I was 344 00:16:01,610 --> 00:15:59,040 referring to is you have Jeremy Corbell 345 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:01,620 who has recently partnered I've 346 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:04,560 partnered up with Luis Elizondo uh just 347 00:16:12,170 --> 00:16:09,540 a month ago or so he's saying that 348 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:12,180 um our military they're shooting at 349 00:16:16,249 --> 00:16:15,000 these things on a daily basis so if 350 00:16:19,069 --> 00:16:16,259 they're shooting at these things on a 351 00:16:21,650 --> 00:16:19,079 daily basis there are enough of them to 352 00:16:23,090 --> 00:16:21,660 patrol all of our nuclear facilities and 353 00:16:24,350 --> 00:16:23,100 if they have the capabilities to shut 354 00:16:29,329 --> 00:16:24,360 them down 355 00:16:32,269 --> 00:16:29,339 or to disable and disarm our nukes 356 00:16:35,569 --> 00:16:32,279 then how are we a threat to them how are 357 00:16:37,370 --> 00:16:35,579 we going to well look at Elizondo he 358 00:16:40,670 --> 00:16:37,380 said that we could possibly bait them 359 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:40,680 with nuclear material whether that's uh 360 00:16:47,150 --> 00:16:45,360 raw material or you know actual nukes uh 361 00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,160 he said that he's seen it done before 362 00:16:52,670 --> 00:16:49,920 how are we doing that 363 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:52,680 if there are so many of them that we can 364 00:16:56,829 --> 00:16:54,899 shoot at them on a daily basis how are 365 00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:56,839 we possibly 366 00:17:01,790 --> 00:16:59,759 baiting them especially if you know 367 00:17:05,150 --> 00:17:01,800 allegedly they could read our minds 368 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:05,160 according to uh commander fraber and see 369 00:17:09,409 --> 00:17:08,640 his cat point and be there before he was 370 00:17:17,390 --> 00:17:09,419 there 371 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,400 be a couple of different 372 00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,439 things that are going on at the same 373 00:17:24,829 --> 00:17:21,600 time that we're all lumping into one 374 00:17:27,409 --> 00:17:24,839 category that's a possibility 375 00:17:28,610 --> 00:17:27,419 um but any thoughts on that yeah Michael 376 00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,620 go ahead because I know you have limited 377 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:30,000 time I want to get as much out of you as 378 00:17:36,049 --> 00:17:32,160 I can 379 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,059 I think without a single coherent 380 00:17:41,330 --> 00:17:38,240 um mouthpiece 381 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:41,340 I think Jess is right we're sort of 382 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:43,200 getting 383 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:43,919 um 384 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:46,400 recently sort of fire hosed house paper 385 00:17:54,650 --> 00:17:51,360 Elizondo and now Gary Nolan with 386 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:54,660 similarly famed things 387 00:17:58,810 --> 00:17:57,360 bits of information but it's not coming 388 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:58,820 from one 389 00:18:03,230 --> 00:18:00,960 mouthpiece if you will 390 00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,240 um and that may be because we may never 391 00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:05,039 get 392 00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:11,039 uh we I don't want to go down the rabbit 393 00:18:18,049 --> 00:18:13,039 hole of my 394 00:18:20,029 --> 00:18:18,059 my uh speculation about the difference 395 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:20,039 between admitting that you've got some 396 00:18:24,169 --> 00:18:22,679 Hardware admitting that you're baiting 397 00:18:26,529 --> 00:18:24,179 these things or seeing them out over 398 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,539 these restricted ranges 399 00:18:31,250 --> 00:18:29,520 uh as that might relate to the the 400 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:31,260 so-called core story 401 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:34,559 you know that has been in literature 402 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,200 and even some prominent people have 403 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:39,600 talked about it's things being core 404 00:18:48,409 --> 00:18:43,580 Secrets now core secrets are part of 405 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:48,419 that line of work in the IC and DOD and 406 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:51,000 things will be classified and you may be 407 00:18:57,890 --> 00:18:53,220 able to be allowed to be read into 408 00:19:03,770 --> 00:19:00,529 as you read into something you will 409 00:19:06,890 --> 00:19:03,780 encounter as you flip through it 410 00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:06,900 a deeper dive into the read end 411 00:19:13,370 --> 00:19:09,660 that will call out hey you're now 412 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:13,380 delving into core material which is the 413 00:19:17,870 --> 00:19:16,080 real basis for all of the 414 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:17,880 the secrecy on the program that you're 415 00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:20,160 in so this that's where things get super 416 00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:23,640 serious uh but the core story around 417 00:19:28,010 --> 00:19:25,380 UFOs 418 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,020 you know I don't care what anybody else 419 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:30,720 thinks about Tom DeLonge 420 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:32,940 but if you go back and listen to 421 00:19:37,130 --> 00:19:34,799 everything that he has publicly said 422 00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:37,140 since all of this started 423 00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:39,000 he mentioned some things that 424 00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:40,980 corroborated some stories that were 425 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:43,020 already out there 426 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:46,140 that you were hard to believe 427 00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:48,780 before he corroborated them 428 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:51,840 based on things he told us the public 429 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,660 that he was told 430 00:19:59,930 --> 00:19:57,360 um and apparently before he was told to 431 00:20:02,990 --> 00:19:59,940 stop talking so much one of them was 432 00:20:06,350 --> 00:20:03,000 something he referred to as fly swatting 433 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:06,360 with atmospheric test of nuclear weapons 434 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:10,080 that it was really an attempt to catch 435 00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:13,799 these these UAP off guard to maybe you 436 00:20:18,529 --> 00:20:16,260 know watch the left hand over here and 437 00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:18,539 then boom they launched an atmospheric 438 00:20:22,909 --> 00:20:20,520 test over here 439 00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:22,919 it somehow disables or temporarily 440 00:20:27,890 --> 00:20:25,320 disables this thing in it in his case in 441 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,900 his story it fell into the ocean and we 442 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,480 recovered it or almost did then there's 443 00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:32,880 the case of these Navy divers that went 444 00:20:36,830 --> 00:20:34,260 down 445 00:20:39,529 --> 00:20:36,840 on top of and stood on top of one of 446 00:20:42,169 --> 00:20:39,539 these that had crashed during such tests 447 00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:42,179 down in the Southern Pacific 448 00:20:46,130 --> 00:20:44,340 you know who knows if that story is 449 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,140 really true but it's been told it's been 450 00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:48,480 written about it's been put in books and 451 00:20:53,090 --> 00:20:50,039 then Delong comes out and says that 452 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:53,100 amongst a lot of other things now when I 453 00:20:59,390 --> 00:20:57,600 asked blue in New York in 2019 454 00:21:01,130 --> 00:20:59,400 I don't even think I got the full 455 00:21:02,570 --> 00:21:01,140 sentence out of my mouth about 456 00:21:04,850 --> 00:21:02,580 something 457 00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:04,860 um after I asked him okay now now that 458 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:07,020 we're alone tell me what I what I really 459 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:07,860 saw 460 00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:11,280 that day in the Persian Gulf I later I 461 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:12,780 said um 462 00:21:19,130 --> 00:21:16,320 so what about XYZ that Delong has 463 00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:19,140 mentioned he very quickly says to me 464 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:22,799 what he said consistently that he 465 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:25,679 what Delong says is what the long says 466 00:21:31,789 --> 00:21:28,860 that he Lou is only interested in 467 00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,799 following the data he didn't disparaged 468 00:21:36,289 --> 00:21:33,840 along he didn't deny anything he said 469 00:21:37,789 --> 00:21:36,299 but he also didn't take debate if you 470 00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:37,799 will and 471 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,020 um answer my question about some of the 472 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:41,760 assertions that Delong had made up to 473 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:42,960 that point 474 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,460 so 475 00:21:48,770 --> 00:21:46,080 I mean 476 00:21:51,169 --> 00:21:48,780 everything taken in the big picture 477 00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:51,179 you have to look at all of the 478 00:21:55,970 --> 00:21:53,460 information that's out there which makes 479 00:22:00,289 --> 00:21:55,980 it so hard especially for anyone new in 480 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:00,299 this field yeah um but I've said it 481 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:03,360 before the truth is usually whether it's 482 00:22:09,770 --> 00:22:06,600 an Espionage event taking place 483 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:09,780 in Ukraine uh did the Russians really 484 00:22:14,990 --> 00:22:11,820 kill all those prisoners of war and that 485 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:15,000 prison on purpose or did the ukrainians 486 00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:17,100 actually bomb it on purpose to make it 487 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:19,320 look like the truth is usually somewhere 488 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,400 in the middle 489 00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:23,039 right and so you have to start looking 490 00:22:28,490 --> 00:22:25,140 at your quality of information that you 491 00:22:30,890 --> 00:22:28,500 have and start doing some serious uh 492 00:22:33,529 --> 00:22:30,900 thought exercises on what's real and 493 00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:33,539 what's not uh and if you take everything 494 00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,260 that around the nuclear related stories 495 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:39,840 there's a clear interest by whatever 496 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,440 these things are in nuclear if you take 497 00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:45,600 things that Elizondo says if you take 498 00:22:50,510 --> 00:22:49,080 things that Delong says 499 00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:50,520 um 500 00:22:54,049 --> 00:22:52,860 you know the truth is is in there 501 00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:54,059 somewhere 502 00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:55,679 and 503 00:22:59,630 --> 00:22:57,840 does that help us or hurt us I think it 504 00:23:03,830 --> 00:22:59,640 makes it more intriguing but it makes it 505 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:03,840 harder to discern exactly the hot swap 506 00:23:07,490 --> 00:23:05,460 one of the more interesting things I 507 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:07,500 heard from uh Gary during the interview 508 00:23:12,409 --> 00:23:09,780 is he talked about how maybe they can 509 00:23:13,789 --> 00:23:12,419 influence us and and I forget the 510 00:23:15,409 --> 00:23:13,799 wording he said but make us see things 511 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:15,419 that aren't there basically using some 512 00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:18,480 sort of altered reality technology or I 513 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:20,100 don't know mind control whatever and and 514 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:22,740 Tucker said Carlson said does that scare 515 00:23:25,610 --> 00:23:23,880 you and he may not have been asking 516 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,620 about that specific point because does 517 00:23:28,909 --> 00:23:27,120 this just scare you and he goes no he 518 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:28,919 goes this is exciting this is fun I mean 519 00:23:33,289 --> 00:23:31,020 I think you're like that too 520 00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,299 Jess I have no problem talking about the 521 00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:35,520 most woo stuff and the most scary stuff 522 00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:38,640 I I don't ever sense fear from us but 523 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:40,679 the general public and certain people in 524 00:23:46,190 --> 00:23:43,020 the community don't think like us so 525 00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:46,200 yeah uh just I was just surprised that 526 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,940 they went there and I wish it would have 527 00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:49,440 been on a network we still don't have 528 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:51,000 the network coverage that we're hoping 529 00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:52,980 for I mean it's something behind a 530 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:55,140 paywall so it's important but it's still 531 00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,820 not network coverage I mean CNN's 532 00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,039 documentary the multiple part series is 533 00:24:03,049 --> 00:24:00,720 pushed back indefinitely because their 534 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,059 CNN plus is now gone so we don't know 535 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:05,760 what's going to happen with that 536 00:24:11,090 --> 00:24:08,820 well I 537 00:24:14,210 --> 00:24:11,100 I'll just share with you that I shared 538 00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:16,070 I shared that link to this video that 539 00:24:21,049 --> 00:24:17,340 you sent me 540 00:24:23,210 --> 00:24:21,059 to with a few of my with with all of my 541 00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:23,220 family and with a few of my closest 542 00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:26,340 friends I mean Tucker and I basically 543 00:24:28,970 --> 00:24:27,480 yeah 544 00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:28,980 and I said 545 00:24:32,269 --> 00:24:29,820 um 546 00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:32,279 something along the lines of this this 547 00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:33,720 will be 548 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:36,299 I think the most compelling thing you've 549 00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:38,580 ever watched 550 00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:41,640 just try me you know just just listen to 551 00:24:45,529 --> 00:24:43,380 it watch it 552 00:24:48,350 --> 00:24:45,539 um and let me know what you think and I 553 00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:48,360 said really all of you in my opinion 554 00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:50,220 should send this to everyone you know 555 00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:52,200 but not without really thorough 556 00:24:57,710 --> 00:24:54,720 consideration for who that person 557 00:24:59,330 --> 00:24:57,720 is as far as their makeup 558 00:25:02,269 --> 00:24:59,340 I mean seriously 559 00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:02,279 this is stuff that can 560 00:25:06,610 --> 00:25:05,220 unravel and really stick on people's 561 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:06,620 minds 562 00:25:11,870 --> 00:25:09,419 and cause them depending on where they 563 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:11,880 are with respect to their fundamental 564 00:25:18,529 --> 00:25:14,100 beliefs the some of the things that he 565 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,539 said tonight were were 566 00:25:22,810 --> 00:25:20,640 well I had never heard them all set in 567 00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:22,820 one place before 568 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,320 he said it might be their Planet I'm 569 00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:28,320 like you're saying that on a very 570 00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:29,880 mainstream show which we've all 571 00:25:33,169 --> 00:25:31,500 discussed but when I heard him say that 572 00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:33,179 I'm like yeah they're definitely pushing 573 00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:35,340 an envelope more than usual 574 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,900 um semivan recently came out on James 575 00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:39,360 iandoli show engaging the phenomena and 576 00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:41,880 said you know I don't want to talk to an 577 00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:43,559 eight-year-old girl some my friends like 578 00:25:46,970 --> 00:25:45,059 can you talk to my daughter about UFOs 579 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:46,980 and he's like no I don't want to talk to 580 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:48,840 you it's too scary this thing lies to us 581 00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:51,059 we you know it may be manipulating us I 582 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,260 don't want to talk about it and then it 583 00:25:55,789 --> 00:25:54,240 got me thinking we got to get beyond 584 00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:55,799 that though we got to figure the world 585 00:25:59,390 --> 00:25:57,480 needs to know about this I know it's not 586 00:26:00,350 --> 00:25:59,400 easy for kids to take but if we're 587 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,360 dealing with something that's 588 00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:02,159 manipulating us and has controlled or 589 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:03,900 influenced you know life on this planet 590 00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,659 it needs to come out let's not wait much 591 00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:08,400 longer I mean I know you disagree 592 00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:09,480 because you think it's gonna cause 593 00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,299 totally just total disable it just you 594 00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,400 know totally destabilize the world which 595 00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:16,559 it could but when when when is the right 596 00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,580 time 597 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,159 I don't I don't know that I think it 598 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,320 would cause total to stability the 599 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:24,240 stabilization of the world but I think 600 00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:26,940 that it would cause enough 601 00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:29,700 I mean you just don't I mean I dealt 602 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:33,059 with someone today over uh no kidding 603 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,840 buying a used awesome condition 604 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,600 badass zero turn lawnmower I was gonna 605 00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:41,520 upgrade my lawnmower 606 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,559 I didn't get the lawnmower at the end of 607 00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:45,360 the day because the guy and I'm gonna 608 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,360 quote him maybe I won't quote him but he 609 00:26:51,049 --> 00:26:49,679 basically said oh I mean I had 610 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:51,059 everything worked out the trailer I was 611 00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:53,580 going to use uh the two hour drive where 612 00:26:58,730 --> 00:26:56,279 I was gonna pick it up how I was going 613 00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,740 to pay him and how I was going to sell 614 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:00,960 my current lawn tractor 615 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:03,900 so this was not something on a whim 616 00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,360 and and this guy texts and I spoke with 617 00:27:12,529 --> 00:27:08,880 him yesterday and my point is he's he 618 00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:12,539 proved to me that I'm glad I didn't deal 619 00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:16,140 with him he's a little on something he 620 00:27:21,049 --> 00:27:18,539 ain't right okay to put saying it you 621 00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:21,059 know give you an expression 622 00:27:25,549 --> 00:27:23,940 um he said hey some people just drove by 623 00:27:27,289 --> 00:27:25,559 and offered me cash 624 00:27:29,930 --> 00:27:27,299 sorry 625 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:29,940 and I had an agreement on the phone with 626 00:27:35,149 --> 00:27:33,120 this guy who lives in my hometown in my 627 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:35,159 old neighborhood who knows which house I 628 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,020 grew up in based on a short conversation 629 00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,880 I mean it was a lot of coincidence stuff 630 00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:40,159 there 631 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:43,080 uh but he 632 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:44,760 he I even asked him what's your venmo 633 00:27:47,690 --> 00:27:46,500 right I mean I was ready to shoot him 634 00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:47,700 the money 635 00:27:51,409 --> 00:27:49,980 something wasn't right and I say all of 636 00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:51,419 that it's three minutes of your life you 637 00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:53,220 won't get back for me to say that you 638 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:55,020 don't know people 639 00:28:02,029 --> 00:28:01,130 this thing keeps going on mute but 640 00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:02,039 anyway 641 00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:05,640 um you just can't you just can't roll 642 00:28:10,610 --> 00:28:08,100 all of this out there formally from the 643 00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:10,620 podium at the White House or some 644 00:28:17,169 --> 00:28:14,220 Pentagon briefing you I think that's the 645 00:28:19,549 --> 00:28:17,179 most irresponsible thing 646 00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:19,559 apparently that could ever could ever 647 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:22,380 happen just about is to roll this out 648 00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:24,179 all at once 649 00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,340 I don't care who wants to debate me on 650 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,559 it that's where I stand that I 651 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,960 understand risk management to up to the 652 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:33,120 nth degree I'm not the world's foremost 653 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:35,640 expert on it but this would have been 654 00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:37,559 thought about for decades 655 00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,779 I don't care if there is documentation 656 00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:42,000 that shows they're hubris and how they 657 00:28:45,649 --> 00:28:43,559 don't think where you know what would we 658 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:45,659 even do with this information maybe it 659 00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:49,679 is so beyond our comprehension that only 660 00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:52,380 the very best Minds people that can have 661 00:28:56,769 --> 00:28:54,059 access to only 662 00:29:00,409 --> 00:28:56,779 our very best research 663 00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:00,419 researchers our capabilities maybe those 664 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:03,720 are the only people that can conceivably 665 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:07,620 even begin to get their arms around this 666 00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:11,460 um maybe right if it was so easy if it 667 00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:13,620 was so inconsequential to let us know 668 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,500 wouldn't they have done so sort of 669 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,480 sharing whatever tech technical games 670 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,120 that they've made 671 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:23,760 so I don't think it's uh I don't think 672 00:29:29,149 --> 00:29:26,820 it's that easy yes 673 00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:29,159 I'm just going to say zero turns are no 674 00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:31,919 joke Michael so uh yeah people are gonna 675 00:29:36,049 --> 00:29:33,960 fight you tooth and L for those 676 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,059 I bought one a couple years back they're 677 00:29:42,889 --> 00:29:39,360 they're really nice but uh 678 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:42,899 as far as something that's been living 679 00:29:49,010 --> 00:29:45,419 here for a very long time and 680 00:29:51,889 --> 00:29:49,020 interfering with our minds 681 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,899 um if this is not coming from another 682 00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:53,220 planet 683 00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:56,820 another solar system another galaxy into 684 00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:00,720 ours and it's been here 685 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:05,810 maybe that's possibly why we have 686 00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:06,960 somebody 687 00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:10,740 that has been trained in parasitology 688 00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:15,120 and another scientist Gary Nolan that 689 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:18,600 he's an immunologist but he's also very 690 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,860 well versed in religious studies 691 00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:24,480 um maybe 692 00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:27,299 as far as possession maybe it all ties 693 00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:28,860 in together maybe it's something that's 694 00:30:36,049 --> 00:30:33,200 organic that we are 695 00:30:39,769 --> 00:30:36,059 misidentifying as something else maybe 696 00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:39,779 it has the ability to come within us and 697 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:42,720 possibly make us hallucinate in certain 698 00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,720 ways that we are seeing these things I 699 00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:47,640 mean that still does not 700 00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:50,880 account for the biological 701 00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:53,520 issues or maybe it does he spoke today 702 00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:55,140 about orbs 703 00:30:59,570 --> 00:30:57,659 coming through his car and coming 704 00:31:02,389 --> 00:30:59,580 through some guy's car and going through 705 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:02,399 somebody's chest and they had 706 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,740 um issues with that 707 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:06,000 yeah 708 00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:10,440 about the orbs so 709 00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:11,039 um 710 00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:13,500 somebody that we both know has been 711 00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:15,720 talking about plasma uh and the 712 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:18,140 possibility that it's a living 713 00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:22,320 microorganism okay so if that comes into 714 00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,120 your body 715 00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:27,480 I mean could that not basically 716 00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,299 be a type of possession 717 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,399 could that not affect the way that you 718 00:31:38,570 --> 00:31:34,559 think the way that you 719 00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:41,870 Michael 720 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:44,330 quite possibly I mean he gave the 721 00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:44,970 example 722 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:45,480 [Music] 723 00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:50,090 I always forget this guy's name the Air 724 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:51,419 Force 725 00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:54,480 guy that was at randallson Forest at the 726 00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:55,620 base 727 00:31:59,409 --> 00:31:57,240 John borrows us who he was talking about 728 00:32:02,570 --> 00:31:59,419 who had the uh 729 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:02,580 for him that's right 730 00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:03,299 um 731 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:06,360 this now I had never 732 00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,460 I'm much more familiar with Jim 733 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:10,799 peniston's account who was there with 734 00:32:16,370 --> 00:32:13,260 Burroughs or in proximity 735 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:16,380 I wasn't aware that and Nolan did sort 736 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:17,940 of gloss over and make some 737 00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:20,760 misstatements uh but I think it's 738 00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:23,100 because you can't be 739 00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:25,380 you can't know all things about all 740 00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:27,720 things so he like he referred to you 741 00:32:30,889 --> 00:32:29,220 know Lockheed and McDonald Douglas 742 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:30,899 McDonald Douglas doesn't exist anymore 743 00:32:35,049 --> 00:32:33,360 Boeing 744 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:35,059 basically 745 00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:38,340 subsume them in the late 90s yeah that's 746 00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:40,200 another thing that I noticed like he he 747 00:32:45,409 --> 00:32:42,360 did make a couple of misstatements there 748 00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:45,419 and then that's yeah I mean you know 749 00:32:50,029 --> 00:32:47,580 I I don't 750 00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:50,039 I try to be factually correct but you 751 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:51,360 know you can't know everything about 752 00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:52,860 everything and so I don't I don't fault 753 00:32:58,490 --> 00:32:55,799 him for that but I don't recall I mean 754 00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:58,500 peniston was the one that I recall who 755 00:33:02,269 --> 00:33:00,120 ran his hand along 756 00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:02,279 the the landed object 757 00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:05,159 and who Who sketched in his pocket 758 00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:06,480 Notepad 759 00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:09,360 the symbols on the side of the craft 760 00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:12,500 and then he tells a wonderful 761 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,039 uh chronological history of years later 762 00:33:21,169 --> 00:33:19,440 finding that notebook 763 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:21,179 where he had 764 00:33:27,529 --> 00:33:24,720 written essentially binary 765 00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:27,539 from some sort of a dream he had from 766 00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:29,399 that event or whatever but and that that 767 00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:31,620 binary was then decoded 768 00:33:34,669 --> 00:33:33,179 and had some pretty potentially 769 00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,679 compelling 770 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,840 information in it about 771 00:33:42,409 --> 00:33:38,880 four or five sites around the world 772 00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:42,419 where this object originated from 773 00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:44,220 in the future 774 00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:46,140 you got to go back and and I've 775 00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:47,880 forgotten a lot more than I ever learned 776 00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:49,260 about it but I 777 00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:51,960 um I wasn't aware that Burroughs was the 778 00:33:56,509 --> 00:33:53,880 one that touched it I thought Burroughs 779 00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:56,519 when this thing flashed 780 00:34:00,110 --> 00:33:58,919 and I forget it the sequence of that 781 00:34:02,090 --> 00:34:00,120 event 782 00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:02,100 or where it fell but you know this thing 783 00:34:06,409 --> 00:34:05,580 landed Burroughs uh and peniston were 784 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:06,419 there 785 00:34:11,629 --> 00:34:08,820 peniston walks around it but I thought 786 00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:11,639 Burroughs got sort of flash blinded and 787 00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:15,000 knocked unconscious for a Time 788 00:34:19,129 --> 00:34:17,099 um and then years later developed these 789 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,139 I know it was a heart murmur of what 790 00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:21,599 first gave him indications that he had a 791 00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,879 valve problem and couldn't get it fixed 792 00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:26,220 by the VA because his records were so I 793 00:34:30,050 --> 00:34:27,960 mean none of that really matters the 794 00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:30,060 what matters is that he 795 00:34:39,530 --> 00:34:37,329 and you know these things do have 796 00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,540 deleterious effects on on human 797 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,040 organisms 798 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,679 and it's Hal putoff I love that 799 00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:44,879 expression 800 00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:46,139 um 801 00:34:49,970 --> 00:34:48,119 two three years back where he said so if 802 00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:49,980 you see you landed UFO 803 00:34:53,329 --> 00:34:51,540 don't rush up 804 00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:53,339 they said that tonight he said that in 805 00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:54,359 the interview today and they're like the 806 00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,280 advice we would give because some of 807 00:34:59,569 --> 00:34:57,599 these people were just so excited to 808 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,579 like I'm gonna go check it out and then 809 00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:00,960 you know they got sick it's like the 810 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:02,760 advice do not go near something that's 811 00:35:06,829 --> 00:35:04,680 down on the ground I mean 812 00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:06,839 it's enticing obviously if we see 813 00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:08,460 something we think it's non-human like 814 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:09,960 this is a light chance of a lifetime 815 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:11,220 close encounters with the Third Kind 816 00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:13,380 ending of the movie Devil's Tower let's 817 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:15,300 go but yeah 818 00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:18,020 well I mean you know 819 00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:21,180 go ahead there's no there's no evidence 820 00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:23,220 of that they've intentionally injured 821 00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:24,920 people but then you have Calera so 822 00:35:29,390 --> 00:35:28,140 Claris see if that's non-human and kit 823 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:29,400 green when they interviewed him he 824 00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:31,320 suggested it was a human 825 00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,820 um but whatever that is that looks like 826 00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:34,800 intentional injury to me 827 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:37,500 well was it was it valet who wrote about 828 00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:41,040 the hunters in the trees at night 829 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:43,800 in South America uh that's one of the 830 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:46,800 ways they hunt is they climb up and they 831 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:55,069 can you hear me I can hear you yeah it 832 00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:57,180 keeps saying mute on 833 00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:00,720 um anyway these uh 834 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:02,760 is it Brazil right these Brazilian 835 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,380 Hunters 836 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,720 they climb up in the trees at night they 837 00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:08,640 hang up in there in like a hammock or 838 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:09,839 some sort of a 839 00:36:14,450 --> 00:36:12,000 something to keep them from falling out 840 00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:14,460 and this that's where these Hunters have 841 00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:15,780 been attacked 842 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:18,119 from above 843 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:21,780 um you know that and and there are cases 844 00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,240 if you read um 845 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,880 Michael swords I mean there's just 846 00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:29,520 thousands thousands of accounts of 847 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,500 people being harmed what about the other 848 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:34,079 cases that valet wrote about especially 849 00:36:38,089 --> 00:36:35,940 in New Mexico and has 850 00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:38,099 um booked Trinity I don't know if either 851 00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:40,020 of you read that did you I haven't read 852 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,839 it yet I heard so he he wrote about 853 00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:44,640 um a UFO that landed and there were 854 00:36:48,829 --> 00:36:47,760 these two kids who basically went up and 855 00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:48,839 touched that and they're still telling 856 00:36:53,810 --> 00:36:51,359 this story today but I'm not sure if 857 00:36:57,230 --> 00:36:53,820 they have any 858 00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:57,240 um biological side effects like if they 859 00:37:02,329 --> 00:37:00,119 had the same types of deals like did you 860 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:02,339 do you know what I'm talking about Joe 861 00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:05,400 I do I have not read it but I think 862 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:07,500 maybe the craft was powered down at that 863 00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,400 point 864 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:10,560 um there you go why would but the 865 00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:12,780 Randall shim craft was also probably 866 00:37:18,490 --> 00:37:14,760 powered down it was like sitting on the 867 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:22,010 I don't know I don't remember I think 868 00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:23,520 there was it there were imprints that 869 00:37:28,430 --> 00:37:26,760 they made plaster cast from uh of of the 870 00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:28,440 event that apparently there's pictures 871 00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:31,260 of the imprints 872 00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:33,660 which uh you know Lieutenant Colonel 873 00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:34,680 halt 874 00:37:41,630 --> 00:37:37,740 testifies to that when I hear anything 875 00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:41,640 about biological effects or radiation uh 876 00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,359 fallout from these crap that we see 877 00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:47,280 immediately I jump to human technology 878 00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:51,800 because we all know that clean energy 879 00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:56,040 with uh zero radiation is possible 880 00:38:01,069 --> 00:37:58,920 us as humans we haven't quite cracked it 881 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:01,079 or some people have you know made 882 00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:03,660 advancements in it but would we not 883 00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:05,880 consider the fact that you know an 884 00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,040 advanced civilization such as aliens 885 00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:10,560 would be able to do that without having 886 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,079 any type of radiation Fallout to the 887 00:38:17,569 --> 00:38:14,880 humans below 888 00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,579 well there are so I think we're planning 889 00:38:22,849 --> 00:38:19,859 to do a show on uh 890 00:38:25,849 --> 00:38:22,859 NASA Langley's involvement in UFO 891 00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:25,859 research with with Paul Hill 892 00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:26,579 um 893 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:30,359 in Hill's book not to get off track here 894 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:33,480 but in answer to your question 895 00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:37,859 he goes into extreme detail about the 896 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:40,880 power levels that are observed in UFOs 897 00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:44,880 uh both in flight and on the ground and 898 00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:47,700 he even describes and shows them shows 899 00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:49,260 the mathematical work 900 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,660 of what's going on with the local 901 00:38:56,450 --> 00:38:54,240 atmosphere of these things and how they 902 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,460 are ionizing the local ambient air 903 00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:58,560 surrounding the vehicle 904 00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:01,560 at various power levels at and at 905 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:03,900 various power levels their 906 00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:05,700 luminosity 907 00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:09,780 changes at a at low power they may not 908 00:39:18,109 --> 00:39:13,200 emit any light at all or may not appear 909 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,119 to admit any light they do have he says 910 00:39:23,870 --> 00:39:21,119 spotlights 911 00:39:26,569 --> 00:39:23,880 um what does he call them they have all 912 00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:26,579 manner of Lights headlights tail lights 913 00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:30,300 spotlights laser beam like lights 914 00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:33,720 but they also emit or seemingly admit 915 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:37,140 light and it's based on the power right 916 00:39:41,630 --> 00:39:39,180 before they zip off there's just 917 00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:41,640 thousands of accounts that Hill talks 918 00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:45,839 about of these things going from a red 919 00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:51,000 or an orange to a blue to a white 920 00:39:57,609 --> 00:39:53,420 and and the blue and the white 921 00:40:00,970 --> 00:39:57,619 represents uh uh a shift up in power 922 00:40:04,849 --> 00:40:00,980 going to full power just before this 923 00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:04,859 ultraviolet right and he he talks about 924 00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:07,859 people coming into proximity there's a 925 00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:10,319 whole section about that and how they 926 00:40:17,710 --> 00:40:13,380 are seemingly sunburned 927 00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:17,720 uh some people on just the Exposed Skin 928 00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:21,599 others that have effects that go deeper 929 00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,540 so this stuff the compelling thing about 930 00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,359 hills research is number one he was a 931 00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:30,000 government employee he was a NASA 932 00:40:34,250 --> 00:40:31,800 employee who was disallowed by his 933 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,260 management from publishing the results 934 00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:36,240 of his research and his team's research 935 00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:38,940 at Nasa Langley in Virginia 936 00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:42,480 an organization that still exists 937 00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:44,760 but they had so much of this already 938 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,720 figured out and the fact that it's not 939 00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:49,680 mainstream 940 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:51,960 public news I would bet that University 941 00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:54,660 that Nolan mentioned that's now offering 942 00:41:00,290 --> 00:40:57,900 was it a PhD or a master's 943 00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:00,300 in the study of UAP I forget which 944 00:41:05,329 --> 00:41:03,359 school it was he was telling how that 945 00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:05,339 it's becoming more prolific more open 946 00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:07,140 about researching this stuff to the 947 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:09,119 extent you can get a degree in it 948 00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:13,260 I would bet that Paul Hill's book is 949 00:41:17,329 --> 00:41:15,240 part of the curriculum 950 00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:17,339 and you don't see anybody talking about 951 00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:19,140 it at all a lot and this is one of the 952 00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:20,700 problems I have with this current 953 00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:23,640 rollout if you want to call it that 954 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,500 is there sort of except for the latest 955 00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:26,880 legislation where they're saying okay 956 00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,460 we're gonna go back to 1947. well 957 00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:32,160 somebody ought to say hey let's go over 958 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:34,260 here to NASA Langley and knock on their 959 00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:35,040 door 960 00:41:40,609 --> 00:41:37,380 because they have apparently a treasure 961 00:41:44,510 --> 00:41:43,190 on what's you know as as Eric Davis ever 962 00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,520 mentioned to you have you ever brought 963 00:41:48,530 --> 00:41:46,319 it up with him what Paul Hill's work 964 00:41:50,450 --> 00:41:48,540 means to him if anything 965 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:50,460 I will have I would imagine he would 966 00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:52,260 have a critical opinion of it I'll 967 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:53,700 search our messages 968 00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:57,000 um and if not I'll ask him uh about that 969 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,980 um which I can't say publicly because 970 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,240 then he'll get in trouble because 971 00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:02,400 somebody can consider me media and then 972 00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:03,599 he's not allowed to talk to the media 973 00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:05,160 but I could say it to you privately just 974 00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:06,720 about Paul Hill I can get his opinion on 975 00:42:08,809 --> 00:42:07,560 that 976 00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,819 um 977 00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:10,079 I was going to say something about Paul 978 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:11,460 Hill and powering up and now I can't 979 00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,540 remember 980 00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:14,579 um sorry Jess if you want to jump in as 981 00:42:17,809 --> 00:42:16,500 I draw a blank and Michael let me know 982 00:42:20,450 --> 00:42:17,819 when you got to go 983 00:42:23,089 --> 00:42:20,460 I I do need to go I wish you would kind 984 00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:23,099 of redo this after people if that you 985 00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:25,380 know there was so much I really 986 00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:27,300 appreciate what Jess did she sounded 987 00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,740 like she took really good notes I just 988 00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:30,240 didn't get it until you sent me the link 989 00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:32,460 I didn't know it was out there but there 990 00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:35,400 were so many dime drops in that 991 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,220 um it'll do it anytime or next week we 992 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:40,800 can do it before Paul Hill yeah I would 993 00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:47,930 I'd like for you to ask him somebody to 994 00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:50,700 ask him you know why now how did he feel 995 00:42:57,230 --> 00:42:52,380 comfortable 996 00:42:59,690 --> 00:42:57,240 that maybe because hey this is open 997 00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:59,700 University Research they didn't have me 998 00:43:03,609 --> 00:43:01,260 sign anything 999 00:43:06,109 --> 00:43:03,619 all right 1000 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,119 I asked him to come on tonight and he 1001 00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:08,400 said he would but he had stuff going on 1002 00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:10,500 so he couldn't do it so he will come on 1003 00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,940 the future and hopefully we could do 1004 00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:13,440 this again with him 1005 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,300 because yeah I mean I don't think he'll 1006 00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:17,040 say yeah I was told to do this I think 1007 00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:18,119 he'll say I've been talking I've been 1008 00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:19,380 doing this for a while now it's just 1009 00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:21,780 this is more high profile show I've had 1010 00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:24,540 on so yeah I think maybe they talk 1011 00:43:27,770 --> 00:43:26,220 amongst themselves and say hey let's do 1012 00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:27,780 this maybe you know just I don't think 1013 00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:29,400 it's an official thing but I have said 1014 00:43:33,530 --> 00:43:31,020 that I do think maybe there's an 1015 00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,540 official behind the scenes guiding this 1016 00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:35,520 a little bit just for the reaction of 1017 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:37,800 the the general public gauging the 1018 00:43:41,890 --> 00:43:39,660 reaction but obviously that speculation 1019 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:41,900 on my part I can't prove that 1020 00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:45,300 the other part could simply be like he 1021 00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:47,700 sort of alluded to he he 1022 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,040 he talked about you know the veil is 1023 00:43:56,569 --> 00:43:52,560 coming down the stigma is stripping away 1024 00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,579 and he talked to some length about the 1025 00:43:59,809 --> 00:43:58,319 the ease with which he can now have 1026 00:44:02,329 --> 00:43:59,819 these discussions with fellow 1027 00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:02,339 researchers compared to the Past 1028 00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:06,060 so um you know the and the other thing 1029 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,160 that you should also have a show about 1030 00:44:15,849 --> 00:44:11,280 is dissecting footoffs paper because as 1031 00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:15,859 I've mentioned to you in a in a DM 1032 00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:18,720 it would be interesting to know and this 1033 00:44:23,809 --> 00:44:21,180 is just me you know 1034 00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:23,819 throwing something on the wall here 1035 00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:27,119 but all of these I'll call them research 1036 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:28,319 tracks 1037 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,359 that put off lays out 1038 00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:32,160 and he advocates 1039 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:34,440 you know we won't know until we know 1040 00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:38,460 until we research each of these paths 1041 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,160 uh as ludicrous as some of them may seem 1042 00:44:44,990 --> 00:44:42,960 uh 1043 00:44:47,870 --> 00:44:45,000 we won't begin to to get a better 1044 00:44:49,849 --> 00:44:47,880 picture until we confirm or eliminate 1045 00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:49,859 some of these possibilities 1046 00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:54,060 so he was was he was he writing this as 1047 00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:56,339 a way to help further drop the stigma in 1048 00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:58,220 the research community 1049 00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:00,300 or was he 1050 00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:04,140 putting out there what is known but 1051 00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:06,420 posing it in a way as a possible 1052 00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:08,940 research track 1053 00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:14,390 and then again who authorized him to do 1054 00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:15,680 that 1055 00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,180 before you go Michael 1056 00:45:22,430 --> 00:45:19,920 um I just want to thank you for being 1057 00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:22,440 here uh it's great meeting you it's 1058 00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:24,540 great talking to you 1059 00:45:29,930 --> 00:45:26,520 um something that I wanted to say about 1060 00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:29,940 Gary Nolan's interview 1061 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:33,060 um I had a chance to speak with him in a 1062 00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:36,960 space not long ago and I asked him if he 1063 00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:37,980 had ever 1064 00:45:46,010 --> 00:45:41,040 you know interviewed Chris Bledsoe and 1065 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,020 he told me that he was not privy to 1066 00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:49,440 any of the names of the people that he 1067 00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:52,200 had ever done any research on uh he said 1068 00:45:58,490 --> 00:45:54,900 that kit green basically passed all the 1069 00:46:01,490 --> 00:45:58,500 data to him and he strictly 1070 00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:01,500 only looked at the data well we can see 1071 00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:04,500 in this interview he said that he 1072 00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:06,300 specifically asked to meet the 1073 00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:08,280 individuals 1074 00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:09,480 um he said that he didn't want to say 1075 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:10,740 their names because it hit the 1076 00:46:16,010 --> 00:46:12,780 requirements or whatever but that is 1077 00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,020 something that he has changed and 1078 00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:18,480 I I kind of understand why he changed 1079 00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:21,540 that but it was something that he said 1080 00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:24,119 he didn't do before that now he's saying 1081 00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:26,220 that he has done 1082 00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,880 so what do you guys think about that 1083 00:46:33,230 --> 00:46:31,140 Jamie 1084 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:33,240 Jimmy shift it's a it's sort of a sea 1085 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,800 change I think 1086 00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:35,760 um 1087 00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:37,500 but what I think doesn't really matter 1088 00:46:42,770 --> 00:46:40,260 I'm speculating but 1089 00:46:44,750 --> 00:46:42,780 um there's probably again the truth 1090 00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:44,760 somewhere in the middle either a green 1091 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:47,160 light to be a little more open about 1092 00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:50,880 this or a realization and after very 1093 00:46:54,890 --> 00:46:53,400 careful consideration of what what 1094 00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:54,900 they're allowed to say and what they're 1095 00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,839 not what they've been approached with 1096 00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:00,359 and what's been shared with them that 1097 00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:03,119 wasn't under restriction I mean even if 1098 00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:05,160 it was implied 1099 00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:09,300 you know they could but nothing formal 1100 00:47:13,790 --> 00:47:11,099 um you still have to be careful but 1101 00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:13,800 maybe they're realizing I I say all 1102 00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:15,540 these maybes it's kind of pointless to 1103 00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:17,220 do that when you're dealing with this 1104 00:47:22,010 --> 00:47:18,540 topic but you kind of get where I'm 1105 00:47:24,650 --> 00:47:22,020 coming from they may never let us know 1106 00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:24,660 who's pulling the strings they may only 1107 00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:26,280 ever say what they feel comfortable 1108 00:47:30,049 --> 00:47:28,440 saying and whether it's because they 1109 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:30,059 feel the stigma has dropped and they're 1110 00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:34,020 less at risk in their own business world 1111 00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:35,640 um as far as I don't know Stanford 1112 00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:37,800 getting grants and getting research 1113 00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,599 support from foundations and 1114 00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:42,240 corporations maybe there's been a great 1115 00:47:48,049 --> 00:47:45,900 uh consideration for risk around that in 1116 00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:48,059 the past and now he's because he he 1117 00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:50,700 openly said this there's much more 1118 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:52,980 involvement much more inquisitiveness 1119 00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:55,680 much more interest in pursuing this 1120 00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:56,579 field 1121 00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,040 throughout Academia and and the research 1122 00:48:03,049 --> 00:48:01,200 community in general so 1123 00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:03,059 it does seem like he's letting those 1124 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,640 guards down and he's willing to speak 1125 00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,200 more openly 1126 00:48:12,049 --> 00:48:09,660 um whether you said like you said uh he 1127 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:12,059 has been given permission to do so or 1128 00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:14,819 he's doing so on his own accord I think 1129 00:48:21,890 --> 00:48:15,720 the 1130 00:48:23,690 --> 00:48:21,900 you can go ahead and 1131 00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:23,700 um put this out there put that out there 1132 00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:26,640 so yeah and I and I think to hold the 1133 00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:28,380 question around you know what's for 1134 00:48:32,990 --> 00:48:30,660 profit what's not uh with these 1135 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:33,000 Aerospace corporations 1136 00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:37,440 that's a bottomless well to be tapped if 1137 00:48:44,290 --> 00:48:40,260 you've got something it's one thing to 1138 00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:44,300 have a uh a rare 1139 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,000 uh one-of-a-kind access to something 1140 00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,880 from some foreign adversary maybe they 1141 00:48:56,569 --> 00:48:53,520 had a advanced fighter jet crash in the 1142 00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:56,579 ocean somewhere and we were the first to 1143 00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,559 find it and dredge it up and take it 1144 00:49:02,329 --> 00:49:00,839 back and take it apart I'm never going 1145 00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,339 to let you go if you keep bringing stuff 1146 00:49:05,710 --> 00:49:03,839 up 1147 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:05,720 well I mean 1148 00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:08,640 unfair he did speak about unfair bidding 1149 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,020 practices and that's something that's 1150 00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,480 been spoken about since the beginning uh 1151 00:49:17,809 --> 00:49:14,400 with Louise Elizondo you see Danny 1152 00:49:21,770 --> 00:49:17,819 Sheehan he spoke about it uh in my 1153 00:49:23,870 --> 00:49:21,780 personal opinion this entire topic is a 1154 00:49:27,170 --> 00:49:23,880 way to get technology that we currently 1155 00:49:29,329 --> 00:49:27,180 have in private contractors hands out 1156 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,339 regardless if that's 1157 00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:32,160 um alien technology or something that we 1158 00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:35,640 have developed independently uh with you 1159 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,980 know just human Ingenuity what do you 1160 00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:39,359 think about that 1161 00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:42,420 and then I promise I'll let you go 1162 00:49:47,809 --> 00:49:45,660 well I I think that uh 1163 00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:47,819 sort of all bets are off because if 1164 00:49:52,849 --> 00:49:50,520 you've got your hands on something that 1165 00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:52,859 can not only 1166 00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,900 you know it wouldn't be the first time 1167 00:50:00,650 --> 00:49:57,599 like there are so many commercial and 1168 00:50:03,950 --> 00:50:00,660 civilian applications of what we used to 1169 00:50:07,549 --> 00:50:03,960 refer to as space technology from 1170 00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:07,559 um from sunglasses and polarization you 1171 00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,960 know related to the visors that the 1172 00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:12,319 first astronauts used 1173 00:50:19,849 --> 00:50:17,220 other things uh that have been spun off 1174 00:50:22,849 --> 00:50:19,859 into the civilian world 1175 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:22,859 so that doesn't really rise to the level 1176 00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:25,740 of of some sort of exotic technology but 1177 00:50:29,930 --> 00:50:28,140 I think that there is an enormous 1178 00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:29,940 liability 1179 00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:32,040 on the part of these 1180 00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:35,220 of any corporation that 1181 00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:38,220 supposedly would have possession of some 1182 00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:40,140 of this material and some of this 1183 00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:44,520 technology there's an enormous liability 1184 00:50:51,770 --> 00:50:46,920 um in 1185 00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:51,780 you know unfair bidding practices 1186 00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,319 um it's not uncommon to have soul Source 1187 00:50:59,569 --> 00:50:57,599 Awards of contracts 1188 00:51:02,870 --> 00:50:59,579 to a preferred better 1189 00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:02,880 those contracts those solicitations are 1190 00:51:05,569 --> 00:51:03,900 written 1191 00:51:08,770 --> 00:51:05,579 specifically because the government 1192 00:51:12,589 --> 00:51:08,780 wants they know a company's capability 1193 00:51:14,809 --> 00:51:12,599 exceeds by far all other companies or 1194 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:14,819 maybe some team of companies and so they 1195 00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,480 will write a contract uh request for 1196 00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:21,359 proposals so that they only are going to 1197 00:51:26,329 --> 00:51:24,180 give it to one source that is common 1198 00:51:28,030 --> 00:51:26,339 practice and that makes the best sense 1199 00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:28,040 for the government to get the best 1200 00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:30,420 outfit that's out there to do whatever 1201 00:51:36,349 --> 00:51:32,760 it is they need done but if you've got 1202 00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:36,359 an entity that Is possessing some sort 1203 00:51:40,910 --> 00:51:37,920 of advanced 1204 00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:40,920 technology that gives them an unfair 1205 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:44,220 advantage over the rest of the industry 1206 00:51:47,630 --> 00:51:45,660 that they're competing with for 1207 00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:47,640 contracts with the government 1208 00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:49,380 then I could see that as a huge 1209 00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,140 liability if it were to come out that 1210 00:51:57,710 --> 00:51:55,020 there had been technical gains made by 1211 00:51:59,569 --> 00:51:57,720 some of these companies that might be 1212 00:52:00,829 --> 00:51:59,579 holding some of this material if they 1213 00:52:01,490 --> 00:52:00,839 are 1214 00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:01,500 um 1215 00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:07,970 I'm sorry do you agree that possibly 1216 00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:10,200 some of the technology that they want 1217 00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:13,760 out from Crash retrievals may not be 1218 00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:16,980 extraterrestrial but terrestrial 1219 00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:19,859 maybe China develops something it 1220 00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:22,380 crashed we developed it we handed it off 1221 00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:23,880 to Lockheed Martin 1222 00:52:27,549 --> 00:52:26,520 only Lockheed Martin had that 1223 00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:27,559 information 1224 00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:30,359 and that's where some of these unfair 1225 00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,280 bidding practice practices come into 1226 00:52:36,829 --> 00:52:33,839 play 1227 00:52:38,270 --> 00:52:36,839 I I I don't know I I wouldn't know oh 1228 00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:38,280 come on man 1229 00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:40,260 well I mean I'm not trying to be a stick 1230 00:52:45,950 --> 00:52:42,359 in the mud I I just um 1231 00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:45,960 I I do know that there is a cottage 1232 00:52:52,010 --> 00:52:47,160 industry 1233 00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:52,020 inside and we want it it's invaluable uh 1234 00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:53,940 involving 1235 00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,079 the recovery and Research into 1236 00:53:01,609 --> 00:53:00,960 foreign technology they're always asked 1237 00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:01,619 in 1238 00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,740 you know whether it was World War One on 1239 00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:06,240 the battlefield finding the German 1240 00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,460 potato masher grenade and hey that's 1241 00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:09,839 pretty handy the shape of it lets you 1242 00:53:15,410 --> 00:53:12,540 throw it a long way 1243 00:53:18,770 --> 00:53:15,420 um to you know shooting down the the net 1244 00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:18,780 in World War II the the first me-262 jet 1245 00:53:25,150 --> 00:53:21,660 plane and trying to take it apart and 1246 00:53:28,010 --> 00:53:25,160 figure it out to stuff like this 1247 00:53:30,890 --> 00:53:28,020 satellites that go up launches that 1248 00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:30,900 countries attempt all the time fail 1249 00:53:36,490 --> 00:53:33,660 because space is hard launches are 1250 00:53:39,770 --> 00:53:36,500 difficult and they fail and these things 1251 00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:39,780 typically launch over the water and when 1252 00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:43,319 they fail they land in the water 1253 00:53:49,309 --> 00:53:45,740 um without going into any more detail 1254 00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:49,319 there's there are people in that realm 1255 00:53:55,609 --> 00:53:52,380 that that's their job let's go see what 1256 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,619 that was let's go see where they are 1257 00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:57,839 with this technology as far as their 1258 00:54:01,309 --> 00:54:00,180 technical state of the art 1259 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,319 um 1260 00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:03,180 and you know there's a lot of serious 1261 00:54:07,849 --> 00:54:05,640 focus on it and there needs to be 1262 00:54:09,650 --> 00:54:07,859 and then 1263 00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:09,660 go ahead I was going to say something go 1264 00:54:18,290 --> 00:54:16,309 our adversaries attempt to do it like 1265 00:54:21,049 --> 00:54:18,300 when we lost an F-35 1266 00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:21,059 fighter jet off of an aircraft carrier I 1267 00:54:23,809 --> 00:54:22,319 think it was in the Mediterranean I 1268 00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:23,819 can't remember exactly 1269 00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:25,859 but guess who was floating around there 1270 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,260 while we tried to recover it and we and 1271 00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:30,000 we did and so did the Japanese they lost 1272 00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:32,160 one guess who was floating around there 1273 00:54:35,390 --> 00:54:33,960 the Chinese the Russians were floating 1274 00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,400 around ours 1275 00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:37,680 the Chinese were floating around you 1276 00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,000 know trying to 1277 00:54:43,549 --> 00:54:41,040 probably trying to find it giving it 1278 00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:43,559 their good old College try but we 1279 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,540 fortunately got to it first and dredged 1280 00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:47,760 them up off the bottom and the rest is 1281 00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,359 history but that's like I say there's a 1282 00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,520 this this whole foreign technology 1283 00:54:59,089 --> 00:54:56,400 research recovery and research effort 1284 00:55:01,069 --> 00:54:59,099 has been going on for decades and you 1285 00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:01,079 would be applying it in a similar 1286 00:55:04,910 --> 00:55:02,880 fashion to anything that supposedly 1287 00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:04,920 landed or crashed or was captured or 1288 00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:06,660 Unearthed archaeologically or whatever 1289 00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:07,980 the case was 1290 00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:10,559 we're led to believe that no gains have 1291 00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,559 been made from it but how are we to know 1292 00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:15,119 but in your opinion I already know the 1293 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:16,680 answer and in your opinion some of what 1294 00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:19,020 we have is not ours it's not human or 1295 00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:20,640 whatever you want to call it in your 1296 00:55:27,650 --> 00:55:22,980 opinion 1297 00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,660 oh I don't no no no I know what I saw 1298 00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:30,000 and then I know you think when Eric 1299 00:55:34,730 --> 00:55:32,040 Davis talks about other countries have 1300 00:55:36,650 --> 00:55:34,740 craft that aren't ours they're non-human 1301 00:55:38,990 --> 00:55:36,660 do you do you think in your opinion we 1302 00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:39,000 have non-human craft in our possession 1303 00:55:44,569 --> 00:55:41,160 that's what I mean 1304 00:55:48,289 --> 00:55:44,579 I think it's probable right 1305 00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:48,299 and if you again if you point back to 1306 00:55:52,430 --> 00:55:50,040 Tom DeLong 1307 00:55:54,589 --> 00:55:52,440 and you read between the lines of his 1308 00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:54,599 book series 1309 00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:57,240 that's one of the central themes in his 1310 00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:01,040 first fiction book it's set at Area 51 1311 00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:04,740 there is a triangle type vehicle that we 1312 00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:07,440 have developed that we're flying but in 1313 00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:09,420 the book 1314 00:56:14,450 --> 00:56:12,720 um it's fiction but there is also some 1315 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:14,460 sort of recovered 1316 00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:17,280 saucer sport model whatever you want to 1317 00:56:20,990 --> 00:56:18,180 call it 1318 00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:21,000 that the 1319 00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:24,180 the hero ends up 1320 00:56:29,870 --> 00:56:27,359 flying or whatever the case is but 1321 00:56:33,069 --> 00:56:29,880 read between the lines I mean you know 1322 00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:33,079 it I and I say that because 1323 00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:35,880 you know Lou didn't want to go there 1324 00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:37,740 when I brought up Tom DeLong 1325 00:56:41,630 --> 00:56:39,720 I think both out of respect and because 1326 00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:41,640 Lou wants to stay on track with just 1327 00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:44,040 what he can verify with data 1328 00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,380 or prove with data 1329 00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:48,240 um and that would have muddied the 1330 00:56:52,670 --> 00:56:50,280 waters for him and for Chris Mellon and 1331 00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:52,680 the rest of them to get into these 1332 00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:56,160 Fantastical claims that Delong made over 1333 00:57:01,069 --> 00:56:58,140 the years on coast to coast and in other 1334 00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:01,079 outlets about things he had been that 1335 00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:04,140 have been shared with him by his 1336 00:57:08,750 --> 00:57:04,859 um 1337 00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:10,430 yeah 1338 00:57:14,930 --> 00:57:12,780 um but if you look at what he said he 1339 00:57:18,049 --> 00:57:14,940 was going to do 1340 00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:18,059 if you just followed that thread he 1341 00:57:22,609 --> 00:57:20,700 stunned everything he said he intended 1342 00:57:26,030 --> 00:57:22,619 to do and he's not done 1343 00:57:28,490 --> 00:57:26,040 and I think there is an enormous risk 1344 00:57:33,410 --> 00:57:28,500 for Tom Delong and anything he touches 1345 00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,420 for him to be for it to be proven that 1346 00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,520 he's full of crap 1347 00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:37,920 so I don't think he's 1348 00:57:42,770 --> 00:57:39,660 stupid 1349 00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:42,780 and I do believe that someone took him 1350 00:57:49,069 --> 00:57:47,220 into their trust in in a common interest 1351 00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,079 um and he's spoken at length about it 1352 00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:50,400 and 1353 00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:53,880 take it for what you will do I do I Bank 1354 00:57:59,089 --> 00:57:56,220 on it no but I it's Again part of the 1355 00:58:02,390 --> 00:57:59,099 bigger picture part of the total volume 1356 00:58:03,069 --> 00:58:02,400 of information that we have to look at 1357 00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:03,079 um 1358 00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,280 and some of this 1359 00:58:09,650 --> 00:58:07,680 sort of underscore some of what he says 1360 00:58:11,630 --> 00:58:09,660 underscores some things that Nolan is 1361 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:11,640 saying and vice versa 1362 00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:13,500 and some of the things that Hal putoff 1363 00:58:17,329 --> 00:58:15,660 put in his latest paper some of the 1364 00:58:20,210 --> 00:58:17,339 things that Lou's saying 1365 00:58:22,010 --> 00:58:20,220 you know there's more there's more than 1366 00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:22,020 just smoke now 1367 00:58:26,510 --> 00:58:24,420 right indicating a fire 1368 00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:26,520 we don't have a picture of the landed 1369 00:58:30,170 --> 00:58:28,680 craft we don't have a picture of a 1370 00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:30,180 triangle coming out of the ocean that 1371 00:58:33,950 --> 00:58:32,280 was supposed to be coming to all of us 1372 00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,960 two years ago 1373 00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:35,760 but 1374 00:58:41,089 --> 00:58:37,859 we're getting closer to something 1375 00:58:43,490 --> 00:58:41,099 there's whether it's the slow drip or 1376 00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:43,500 because of green lighting or it's just 1377 00:58:47,569 --> 00:58:45,900 people realizing that hey 1378 00:58:49,069 --> 00:58:47,579 the right thing to do is to get this 1379 00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:49,079 information out there unless I'm 1380 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:50,819 restricted from doing it 1381 00:58:56,329 --> 00:58:53,640 maybe some of each 1382 00:58:59,450 --> 00:58:56,339 I could ask you probably about a 1383 00:59:04,849 --> 00:59:02,150 so I hope we can do this again yeah 1384 00:59:07,309 --> 00:59:04,859 yeah absolutely wonderful and on that 1385 00:59:08,750 --> 00:59:07,319 note I I promise I'll let you go but I'm 1386 00:59:10,910 --> 00:59:08,760 making notes on what I want to ask you 1387 00:59:12,829 --> 00:59:10,920 in the future 1388 00:59:15,530 --> 00:59:12,839 appreciate it and I've really enjoyed it 1389 00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:15,540 and I always do and it's my pleasure so 1390 00:59:17,809 --> 00:59:16,079 um 1391 00:59:20,750 --> 00:59:17,819 I'll talk to you guys later have a good 1392 00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,760 evening thank you thank you again 1393 00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:22,319 see you soon 1394 00:59:30,890 --> 00:59:28,910 that was good that was fun Michael's 1395 00:59:32,510 --> 00:59:30,900 always good 1396 00:59:34,190 --> 00:59:32,520 and Jess has muted himself so I'm 1397 00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,200 talking to myself 1398 00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:36,000 what do you want me to say yeah he was 1399 00:59:38,809 --> 00:59:37,140 great 1400 00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,819 um I could probably talk to him for like 1401 00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:40,799 10 hours straight and then he would be 1402 00:59:44,990 --> 00:59:42,440 like okay I'm tired 1403 00:59:46,910 --> 00:59:45,000 but uh every new person that I come 1404 00:59:49,309 --> 00:59:46,920 across like I have so many questions to 1405 00:59:52,250 --> 00:59:49,319 ask them he seems super knowledgeable so 1406 00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,260 yeah I'd probably bombard him at the 1407 00:59:57,650 --> 00:59:54,720 moment you know so much history you know 1408 00:59:59,690 --> 00:59:57,660 so much that I can't cram into my brain 1409 01:00:02,210 --> 00:59:59,700 and Tammy by the way thank you for that 1410 01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:02,220 super sticker uh thank you very very 1411 01:00:08,450 --> 01:00:05,880 much appreciate that hello Mick 1412 01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:08,460 macrame 1413 01:00:14,089 --> 01:00:10,859 I love Mickey like he cracks me up man 1414 01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,099 we talk constantly 1415 01:00:18,770 --> 01:00:16,799 so I'll keep my own questions you do too 1416 01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:18,780 just if you see if you can see are you 1417 01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,180 able to see the chat at all 1418 01:00:25,609 --> 01:00:24,000 uh I can see the chat I've seen a lot of 1419 01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,619 people like talking and chat about 1420 01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:27,119 me but I've seen a lot of other like 1421 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:28,799 great questions and comments so I'm 1422 01:00:36,109 --> 01:00:31,040 gonna let you take over 1423 01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:36,119 and I will jump in when you need me okay 1424 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:38,220 okay go down to your notes or a couple 1425 01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:40,799 of points that I have made uh that I'd 1426 01:00:45,650 --> 01:00:42,240 like to get to but we'll get to that 1427 01:00:47,210 --> 01:00:45,660 later you go you go ahead so I I must 1428 01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:47,220 have missed something in the Nolan 1429 01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,780 interview I mean I've been trans I woke 1430 01:00:52,670 --> 01:00:50,640 up early to transcribe 1431 01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:52,680 um and take mostly take notes but also 1432 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:54,420 transcribe because once somebody says 1433 01:00:57,410 --> 01:00:55,440 something really good and I'm gonna get 1434 01:00:59,329 --> 01:00:57,420 DJ Pullman here first 1435 01:01:01,609 --> 01:00:59,339 um I started taking notes on 1436 01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:01,619 Ryan Graves on Lex Friedman and it 1437 01:01:04,670 --> 01:01:03,540 turned into it's a massive thread and 1438 01:01:07,250 --> 01:01:04,680 it's going to take me forever and then 1439 01:01:09,650 --> 01:01:07,260 Nolan came out I'm like oh I need to uh 1440 01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:09,660 I need to um transcribe that so I didn't 1441 01:01:12,650 --> 01:01:11,280 get to see all of the interview because 1442 01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:12,660 you said he mentioned the bio 1443 01:01:15,950 --> 01:01:14,460 technologist and the orb going through 1444 01:01:17,329 --> 01:01:15,960 his arm I didn't see that so I didn't 1445 01:01:19,730 --> 01:01:17,339 know he talked about it let me add GG 1446 01:01:21,289 --> 01:01:19,740 somebody says what about the bill today 1447 01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:21,299 that Gary referenced I mean I did a 1448 01:01:25,730 --> 01:01:23,880 whole show on it um Mike which is on my 1449 01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:25,740 YouTube I did a whole show I think with 1450 01:01:28,910 --> 01:01:27,599 I don't know if Michael was there or it 1451 01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,920 was just me but yeah we did the whole 1452 01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:30,720 show on on the new on the new 1453 01:01:36,410 --> 01:01:33,180 legislation you know related to the 1454 01:01:38,569 --> 01:01:36,420 Senate select intelligence committee and 1455 01:01:40,190 --> 01:01:38,579 um the whole language about immunity so 1456 01:01:42,049 --> 01:01:40,200 I did a whole show on that so I'm not 1457 01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:42,059 going to talk about it tonight 1458 01:01:47,690 --> 01:01:43,319 um let me just get let me get in them 1459 01:01:50,750 --> 01:01:47,700 let me get DJ Plum nellian DJ Plum Nelly 1460 01:01:55,010 --> 01:01:50,760 thank you for waiting forever 1461 01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:57,770 and DJ Plum Nelly 1462 01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:00,420 is not spinning his records 1463 01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:02,880 DJ Plum Nelly going once 1464 01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:05,400 twice 1465 01:02:12,109 --> 01:02:07,619 are you there 1466 01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:14,329 all right uh I have notes but obviously 1467 01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:15,480 I missed something so let me know if I 1468 01:02:19,069 --> 01:02:17,160 missed anything so 1469 01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:19,079 so early on they say in the interview um 1470 01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,880 I don't know if Tucker asked me goes you 1471 01:02:23,329 --> 01:02:22,319 know why keep it secret and Nolan said 1472 01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:23,339 they didn't want to admit they didn't 1473 01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:24,720 have control of their airspace and plus 1474 01:02:27,950 --> 01:02:26,520 they didn't want people they didn't know 1475 01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:27,960 how people would react but we've heard 1476 01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:29,220 that before 1477 01:02:33,289 --> 01:02:31,619 um I've never that's speculation 1478 01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:33,299 obviously we don't know if that's why 1479 01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:34,740 they kept it secret or why they continue 1480 01:02:38,690 --> 01:02:36,660 to keep it secret and then he talked 1481 01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:38,700 about what you said 1482 01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:40,260 um which we didn't get to ask Michael 1483 01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,960 about you know the reason why these 1484 01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:44,160 companies weren't this Tech and you're 1485 01:02:48,170 --> 01:02:46,079 oh no you did ask you did ask you did 1486 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,180 ask him um you see Nolan mentioned the 1487 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:49,920 Craftsman material went off the Lockheed 1488 01:02:56,270 --> 01:02:50,880 and 1489 01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,280 Tucker said he's heard the same from 1490 01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:58,559 unperformed people and then of course 1491 01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,180 Wilson Davis which 1492 01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:02,880 Gary talked about you know briefing 1493 01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:04,500 Gallagher about Wilson Davis and people 1494 01:03:07,309 --> 01:03:05,940 on Twitter were saying you know it's not 1495 01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:07,319 really clear that's what he was saying 1496 01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:08,940 it's they like well he might have been 1497 01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:11,339 briefing him about other stuff related 1498 01:03:19,789 --> 01:03:16,140 to UFO now he specifically said I spoke 1499 01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:19,799 to Gallagher about the Wilson notes he 1500 01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:21,900 specifically mentioned the Wilson notes 1501 01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,099 so 1502 01:03:26,510 --> 01:03:24,720 um I would like to give you props for 1503 01:03:29,569 --> 01:03:26,520 that because you probably planted that 1504 01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:29,579 in his head so no I did not I did not 1505 01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,119 but he um yeah he I confirmed it I mean 1506 01:03:38,809 --> 01:03:35,520 who else did Joe 1507 01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,819 well that was all you man he's good 1508 01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,559 friends with uh Eric Davis he's good 1509 01:03:45,049 --> 01:03:42,720 friends with all the people involved um 1510 01:03:48,289 --> 01:03:45,059 so it has nothing to do with me anything 1511 01:03:51,289 --> 01:03:48,299 Gary Nolan does has nothing I say is 1512 01:03:52,849 --> 01:03:51,299 influencing him so but it's nice to see 1513 01:03:54,770 --> 01:03:52,859 that and for the people who continually 1514 01:03:56,930 --> 01:03:54,780 just you know doubt that that's a 1515 01:03:58,370 --> 01:03:56,940 legitimate document I'm not saying you 1516 01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:58,380 know what Michael I'm like I don't know 1517 01:04:02,750 --> 01:04:00,079 that we have 1518 01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:02,760 non-human craft in our possession I 1519 01:04:07,309 --> 01:04:05,039 think we do but I don't know that and 1520 01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:07,319 I've you know I'm careful about that but 1521 01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:09,119 the notes no doubt the notes are a real 1522 01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:10,799 representation of what Admiral Wilson 1523 01:04:15,529 --> 01:04:13,440 said to Davis in 2002. we don't know 1524 01:04:16,730 --> 01:04:15,539 Wilson was lied to we don't know if you 1525 01:04:18,529 --> 01:04:16,740 know the people in charge of that 1526 01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:18,539 program they lied I don't think they did 1527 01:04:21,289 --> 01:04:19,799 but there's no way to know right now 1528 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:21,299 unless we have access to it and if 1529 01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:23,160 Congress can get access to access to it 1530 01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:24,839 great 1531 01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,220 um we don't know that just like Gary 1532 01:04:30,289 --> 01:04:28,079 Nolan said he goes I'm a scientist you 1533 01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,299 know I think you know I believe he said 1534 01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:32,160 on Lex Friedman he goes you know do you 1535 01:04:35,089 --> 01:04:33,359 think we have something extraterrestrial 1536 01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,099 that's just way beyond what we have and 1537 01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:37,200 Nolan said I believe the people who 1538 01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:39,059 cannot lie which is a reference to Eric 1539 01:04:44,329 --> 01:04:42,180 Davis when people say he can't lie that 1540 01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:44,339 is so ridiculous Mike yes Eric Davis can 1541 01:04:47,210 --> 01:04:45,599 lie that's not the point it's his 1542 01:04:49,609 --> 01:04:47,220 personality so he believes Eric Davis 1543 01:04:51,289 --> 01:04:49,619 who have spoken about you know different 1544 01:04:53,630 --> 01:04:51,299 things different countries having you 1545 01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:53,640 know craft or he says vehicles and then 1546 01:04:56,690 --> 01:04:55,200 you talk about Wilson Davis but I still 1547 01:04:58,370 --> 01:04:56,700 need to know you know that I've told you 1548 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:58,380 I'm not going to go out on the limb and 1549 01:05:03,230 --> 01:05:00,960 say I know anything so 1550 01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:03,240 um yeah thoughts on 1551 01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:05,880 thoughts on Timber chats he says right I 1552 01:05:08,809 --> 01:05:07,260 have to I can do my Timber chat 1553 01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:08,819 impersonation but I need to work on that 1554 01:05:12,289 --> 01:05:10,799 he goes right after the the hearing was 1555 01:05:14,809 --> 01:05:12,299 over he goes I got a text from somebody 1556 01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:14,819 saying that Moultrie and Ray were lying 1557 01:05:19,609 --> 01:05:17,280 about not knowing about Wilson Davis but 1558 01:05:21,890 --> 01:05:19,619 that doesn't prove anything that Tim 1559 01:05:24,589 --> 01:05:21,900 burchett says he got a text from 1560 01:05:26,809 --> 01:05:24,599 somebody saying they were lying so maybe 1561 01:05:28,490 --> 01:05:26,819 they were lying maybe they weren't I 1562 01:05:30,589 --> 01:05:28,500 don't know it would fit if they didn't 1563 01:05:32,510 --> 01:05:30,599 know about Wilson Davis it would fit the 1564 01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:32,520 history which which will Miller talks 1565 01:05:36,890 --> 01:05:34,740 about of plausible deniability you keep 1566 01:05:38,690 --> 01:05:36,900 those folks in a dark on purpose because 1567 01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:38,700 when they are asked about something they 1568 01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:40,079 could say I don't know and they could be 1569 01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:42,660 telling the truth so so is it safe to 1570 01:05:48,970 --> 01:05:46,079 say that Gary Nolan is a little bit more 1571 01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:48,980 than a spokesperson at this point after 1572 01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:52,680 everything that he's brought up he is 1573 01:05:59,690 --> 01:05:56,400 um briefing Gallagher on Wilson Davis 1574 01:06:02,569 --> 01:05:59,700 which that's not in his that's a good 1575 01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:02,579 point you know I mean there's so many 1576 01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:05,640 things that he brought up 1577 01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:08,880 that's not in his field of study why is 1578 01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:11,039 he doing that can you tell me your 1579 01:06:15,770 --> 01:06:13,680 opinion on that I know Gary says he 1580 01:06:17,870 --> 01:06:15,780 stays in his Lane but then he's briefing 1581 01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:17,880 a congressman not according to this 1582 01:06:23,089 --> 01:06:20,520 interview at all he was all over the 1583 01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:23,099 place I know which I love I mean um I 1584 01:06:26,809 --> 01:06:24,720 think he's talking about science wise 1585 01:06:28,730 --> 01:06:26,819 but speculation wise I love that he 1586 01:06:30,770 --> 01:06:28,740 speculates I know people criticize him 1587 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:30,780 for it but as far as him being a 1588 01:06:33,950 --> 01:06:32,460 spokesperson I don't know he can be he 1589 01:06:35,569 --> 01:06:33,960 can be a private citizen and have 1590 01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:35,579 information since he's very good friends 1591 01:06:38,990 --> 01:06:37,319 with Eric Davis 1592 01:06:40,849 --> 01:06:39,000 um and I'm speculating about what he 1593 01:06:42,349 --> 01:06:40,859 would know but he could be a private 1594 01:06:43,730 --> 01:06:42,359 citizen and say I'd like to speak to you 1595 01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:43,740 about this and I'm going to and brief 1596 01:06:49,370 --> 01:06:46,380 him and he wouldn't be a spokesperson so 1597 01:06:52,089 --> 01:06:49,380 um he's going on Tucker Carlson 1598 01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:52,099 speaking for the entire UFO Community 1599 01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:56,940 about 25 different topics what he's not 1600 01:07:00,650 --> 01:06:58,559 speaking for the interest 1601 01:07:02,329 --> 01:07:00,660 who is he speaking for then 1602 01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:02,339 I just think he's speaking for himself 1603 01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:04,380 offering his opinion and and maybe for 1604 01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:05,940 the group that he's involved with and 1605 01:07:09,710 --> 01:07:07,500 the people in the Intel world who talk 1606 01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:09,720 about avatars which I am so excited to 1607 01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:11,520 hear because it's a new interesting but 1608 01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:14,220 so you would disagree that he is not one 1609 01:07:20,529 --> 01:07:18,420 of you know they're only a handful 1610 01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:20,539 um you've got you got 1611 01:07:26,029 --> 01:07:22,980 Elizondo Mellon 1612 01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:26,039 um people in that area you got Taylor 1613 01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:27,359 you got 1614 01:07:34,730 --> 01:07:31,380 um hell even Knapp at this point put off 1615 01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:34,740 um he's one of those top guys and he is 1616 01:07:41,450 --> 01:07:38,640 speaking about this so he is speaking on 1617 01:07:44,089 --> 01:07:41,460 behalf of the entire UFO Community about 1618 01:07:46,609 --> 01:07:44,099 things that he is why do you not see 1619 01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,619 that he's speaking about things that he 1620 01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:49,200 is not trained in I guess he's getting 1621 01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:51,240 all of this information from other 1622 01:07:55,849 --> 01:07:54,240 briefings from these guys you think half 1623 01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:55,859 of the stuff that I heard that him say 1624 01:08:02,109 --> 01:07:58,079 he probably got from Elizondo because I 1625 01:08:07,130 --> 01:08:04,430 information from but I don't consider 1626 01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:07,140 him I don't consider any of those people 1627 01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:09,839 speaking for the UFO Community I think 1628 01:08:13,490 --> 01:08:11,400 they're speaking 1629 01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:13,500 whatever group they are they want to 1630 01:08:16,729 --> 01:08:15,240 just get the information out as best 1631 01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:16,739 they can obviously a lot of it is 1632 01:08:20,450 --> 01:08:18,960 speculation I mean telling us that some 1633 01:08:22,490 --> 01:08:20,460 people in the Intel world I don't know 1634 01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:22,500 if that's the people we know or other 1635 01:08:25,849 --> 01:08:23,759 people because I'm sure there are other 1636 01:08:27,890 --> 01:08:25,859 people involved talking about an avatar 1637 01:08:29,689 --> 01:08:27,900 and that's the leading hypothesis I love 1638 01:08:32,329 --> 01:08:29,699 that he shared that but I don't think 1639 01:08:34,490 --> 01:08:32,339 any of them like you know the UFO 1640 01:08:36,890 --> 01:08:34,500 Community I don't think they're speaking 1641 01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,900 for us I mean I think there's I mean 1642 01:08:43,130 --> 01:08:38,880 fine bro I mean Vine brought up the fact 1643 01:08:45,769 --> 01:08:43,140 that Nolan spoke about the sonar imagery 1644 01:08:48,349 --> 01:08:45,779 um not anything else other than 1645 01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:48,359 specifically the sonar imagery that no 1646 01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:51,540 one brought up how would he have access 1647 01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:54,239 to that data if he's just an 1648 01:08:58,610 --> 01:08:56,640 immunologist studying blood and 1649 01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:58,620 biological 1650 01:09:05,570 --> 01:09:02,159 um artifacts of what kit green has given 1651 01:09:07,010 --> 01:09:05,580 to him that he told me specifically and 1652 01:09:09,769 --> 01:09:07,020 I'll try to find that and send it to you 1653 01:09:12,410 --> 01:09:09,779 uh where he said that 1654 01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:12,420 yeah I it was recorded I'll try to find 1655 01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:14,640 it and bring it up and send it to you 1656 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,560 um so why would he why would he bring up 1657 01:09:21,950 --> 01:09:19,199 sonar imagery like how is he privy to 1658 01:09:24,349 --> 01:09:21,960 this information if he is only an 1659 01:09:28,849 --> 01:09:24,359 immunologist studying the biological 1660 01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:31,669 part of the group and people talk to him 1661 01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:33,839 I don't know what he's reading on I know 1662 01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:35,400 in one of his interviews I think it was 1663 01:09:38,990 --> 01:09:37,380 with Jesse when they had Hal and Eric 1664 01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:39,000 Weinstein and they talked about he 1665 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:40,380 talked about some materials that he 1666 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,520 could talk about and then other 1667 01:09:45,289 --> 01:09:43,440 materials that he could not so that 1668 01:09:48,530 --> 01:09:45,299 takes that tells me he's right in on 1669 01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:48,540 that level for those materials um so 1670 01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:50,520 yeah I don't know I'm just I just have a 1671 01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:52,380 problem with you saying he speaks for 1672 01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:54,000 the UFO Community I don't think any of 1673 01:09:58,490 --> 01:09:56,040 these I mean when he covers 25 damn 1674 01:10:00,530 --> 01:09:58,500 topics at that point he is speaking for 1675 01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:00,540 all of us topics I just don't like the 1676 01:10:05,209 --> 01:10:02,880 wording he's speaking for us he I mean 1677 01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:05,219 he's speaking for the topic what they 1678 01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,380 know I mean he's been not you did not 1679 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,120 like the wording but at that point 1680 01:10:12,590 --> 01:10:11,520 that's what he's doing so I don't want 1681 01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,600 to I don't want to debate that it 1682 01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:14,340 doesn't it doesn't we can ask him 1683 01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:15,719 hopefully if he comes on he said he was 1684 01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,060 willing to come on when he has time and 1685 01:10:22,669 --> 01:10:20,640 I have no problem with Gary Nolan I love 1686 01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:22,679 that he is versed in all of these areas 1687 01:10:26,750 --> 01:10:25,260 I would just like to know how he's 1688 01:10:28,370 --> 01:10:26,760 versed 1689 01:10:31,370 --> 01:10:28,380 um how he was privy to certain 1690 01:10:33,649 --> 01:10:31,380 information how he's not privy to speak 1691 01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:33,659 about other information 1692 01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:35,580 um there's so many things I mean there's 1693 01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:37,260 so many different avenues that we can go 1694 01:10:43,550 --> 01:10:40,980 down in regards to what he said today 1695 01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:43,560 um versus you know his scientific field 1696 01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:46,620 that he's in especially uh I think that 1697 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:49,199 he even spoke about the legislation the 1698 01:10:55,850 --> 01:10:52,560 verbiage that he was writing on uh the 1699 01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:55,860 um he said he wrote it immunity no no he 1700 01:11:00,050 --> 01:10:57,840 was he brought up and I heard from 1701 01:11:02,570 --> 01:11:00,060 several points I may be wrong but I 1702 01:11:04,130 --> 01:11:02,580 heard he even confirmed that yeah there 1703 01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,140 are there's verbiage that's being 1704 01:11:09,169 --> 01:11:06,480 written we're going to see it soon so 1705 01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,179 when I hear that I'm thinking maybe he 1706 01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:11,520 has a hand in it so how would this guy 1707 01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:13,920 who is this you know he's a science guy 1708 01:11:18,669 --> 01:11:16,020 he's a immunologist he's studying all 1709 01:11:22,750 --> 01:11:18,679 these different things how would he be 1710 01:11:24,770 --> 01:11:22,760 writing this type of verbiage 1711 01:11:26,570 --> 01:11:24,780 I don't think I don't think he wrote 1712 01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,580 that um I don't I could be wrong but I 1713 01:11:30,410 --> 01:11:28,320 think he just hears things and he shared 1714 01:11:31,790 --> 01:11:30,420 it and you know I'm happy he shared it 1715 01:11:33,050 --> 01:11:31,800 but I don't think he he's involved in 1716 01:11:35,630 --> 01:11:33,060 writing language I would think that 1717 01:11:37,370 --> 01:11:35,640 would be melon and maybe Lou 1718 01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:37,380 um but as far as the other information 1719 01:11:40,669 --> 01:11:39,000 he gets I think he's part of that group 1720 01:11:42,770 --> 01:11:40,679 and I don't know how the information is 1721 01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:42,780 shared it's a fair question we can ask 1722 01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:44,280 him about it next time just before we 1723 01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,140 get to Ludacris and Paul I can't add you 1724 01:11:51,250 --> 01:11:48,960 for some reason and DJ Plum Nelly I 1725 01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:51,260 tried I'll try again before Ludacris 1726 01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:53,940 Mark what's your question about the 1727 01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:56,520 basement basement office interview 1728 01:11:59,149 --> 01:11:57,840 um I don't know what your question is so 1729 01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:59,159 I'm not going to go back and look so ask 1730 01:12:01,610 --> 01:12:00,360 it again 1731 01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:01,620 um let me just let me bring it let me 1732 01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:04,320 see if I can bring in the BJ guy 1733 01:12:11,630 --> 01:12:09,540 let's see BJ Plum are you there 1734 01:12:14,810 --> 01:12:11,640 DJ plum 1735 01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,820 okay moving on and let me bring in Paul 1736 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,320 I can't add you it says device not 1737 01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,000 connected I don't know what's up 1738 01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:19,920 Ludacris you can unmute yourself how you 1739 01:12:23,709 --> 01:12:21,780 doing Chris good good how are you guys 1740 01:12:26,030 --> 01:12:23,719 and girls 1741 01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:26,040 I've been told that my mic is too loud 1742 01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:27,780 can you guys do you guys hear me too 1743 01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:30,540 loud I'll turn it down yeah sounds good 1744 01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:32,219 to me 1745 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,380 um I was curious uh I thought one of the 1746 01:12:39,709 --> 01:12:36,000 more interesting things from the Gary 1747 01:12:41,630 --> 01:12:39,719 and Tucker interview uh was where he 1748 01:12:43,790 --> 01:12:41,640 showed the two different brains I like 1749 01:12:45,470 --> 01:12:43,800 the the brain matter the healthy brain 1750 01:12:47,570 --> 01:12:45,480 and then one that was working with like 1751 01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:47,580 a doe agent or something working on a 1752 01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:49,320 classified project or something that had 1753 01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:50,400 all the white 1754 01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:52,199 the white space or whatever they call it 1755 01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:55,199 uh what are your thoughts on that 1756 01:12:59,930 --> 01:12:57,840 he has spoken about that before and he 1757 01:13:02,510 --> 01:12:59,940 said they first got 100 cases and uh 1758 01:13:04,189 --> 01:13:02,520 turns out 80 to 90 of them were Havana 1759 01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:04,199 syndrome and I'm reading notes here so 1760 01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:05,520 it's called white matter disease it's 1761 01:13:10,610 --> 01:13:08,520 like kind of like multiple sclerosis um 1762 01:13:13,130 --> 01:13:10,620 dead areas of the brain where it affects 1763 01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:13,140 memory movement can be affected and then 1764 01:13:17,930 --> 01:13:15,300 totally gone but the brain can rewire 1765 01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:17,940 and maybe get over it in some cases are 1766 01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,980 very serious like the one in that image 1767 01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:21,840 so and he met the folks this is what 1768 01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,400 Jesse was talking about in the past he 1769 01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:25,440 said that he hadn't met the folks he met 1770 01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:27,360 the folks took their blood 1771 01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,860 um some of them saw objects on the 1772 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:31,199 ground and they had radiation Burns and 1773 01:13:35,630 --> 01:13:33,620 many of them have caudate potamin 1774 01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:35,640 overdeveloped which is the area they 1775 01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,980 believe intuition resides and many of 1776 01:13:40,970 --> 01:13:39,360 the folks are high functioning like 1777 01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,980 Pilots 1778 01:13:44,330 --> 01:13:42,719 um and he's working on a lot of that 1779 01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:44,340 data I don't know if a paper is coming 1780 01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:47,100 out but it's uh in a neurophysiology 1781 01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:49,800 group at Harvard with uh and he thinks 1782 01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:52,800 you know it's going mainstream and it 1783 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:55,080 tells us what I think he's talking about 1784 01:13:58,130 --> 01:13:56,400 the Claude a potame I mean because it 1785 01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,140 tells us what makes people intuitive and 1786 01:14:01,550 --> 01:14:00,480 smart and the consistent symptoms from 1787 01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:01,560 the people who are injured is 1788 01:14:05,810 --> 01:14:04,260 inflammation and nausea basically you 1789 01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,820 know if I irradiate you with you know 1790 01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:07,199 your whole body this is the kind of 1791 01:14:10,729 --> 01:14:09,000 effects you would expect 1792 01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:10,739 um from radiation and you have some skin 1793 01:14:15,290 --> 01:14:12,900 skin issues external issues with brain 1794 01:14:16,610 --> 01:14:15,300 damage and then he said you know did not 1795 01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:16,620 have evidence that this was something 1796 01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:19,140 that was done on purpose which I'm fine 1797 01:14:22,430 --> 01:14:20,880 with that except for Claris and I'm sure 1798 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:22,440 there are other cases where it does seem 1799 01:14:25,550 --> 01:14:23,520 on purpose 1800 01:14:27,229 --> 01:14:25,560 um just we getting in the wrong place at 1801 01:14:28,729 --> 01:14:27,239 the wrong time and these whatever these 1802 01:14:30,350 --> 01:14:28,739 are they don't give a crap if we get 1803 01:14:31,310 --> 01:14:30,360 injured which I've talked about so many 1804 01:14:33,410 --> 01:14:31,320 times 1805 01:14:35,390 --> 01:14:33,420 so those were my notes 1806 01:14:38,450 --> 01:14:35,400 yeah it sounds like that people are 1807 01:14:40,430 --> 01:14:38,460 being put In Harm's Way with tests or 1808 01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:40,440 are not being informed and are coming 1809 01:14:46,910 --> 01:14:43,739 upon test in or craft whatever it might 1810 01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:46,920 be and are being injured and Danny did a 1811 01:14:51,229 --> 01:14:48,960 spaces earlier and I spoke about I said 1812 01:14:53,330 --> 01:14:51,239 I wonder if they're they're one of their 1813 01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,340 goals going forward will be to set up 1814 01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:55,679 some kind of the fund for people that 1815 01:14:58,729 --> 01:14:57,120 are injured this way kind of like what 1816 01:15:01,729 --> 01:14:58,739 they just did with the uh with the burn 1817 01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:01,739 pits that finally got passed so I'm 1818 01:15:06,530 --> 01:15:03,900 curious also on your thoughts on that as 1819 01:15:09,229 --> 01:15:06,540 well it did pass Us in yeah 1820 01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:09,239 uh late this afternoon I believe I did 1821 01:15:12,770 --> 01:15:11,040 not know that I'm happy I know John 1822 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,780 Stewart has really been involved in that 1823 01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:14,880 oh yeah yeah I'm happy for him too and 1824 01:15:18,410 --> 01:15:16,320 all the veterans that they desperately 1825 01:15:20,090 --> 01:15:18,420 needed it it's embarrassing we don't 1826 01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:20,100 take care of so many veterans uh what do 1827 01:15:23,209 --> 01:15:21,120 I think about that that would be great 1828 01:15:25,130 --> 01:15:23,219 that'd be an amazing thing 1829 01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:25,140 um especially since we don't know what 1830 01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:26,580 injured them if you talk to kid green 1831 01:15:29,630 --> 01:15:27,840 he's going to lean towards it being 1832 01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:29,640 black technology but he can't talk about 1833 01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:31,500 it because it's in the black so I don't 1834 01:15:34,490 --> 01:15:33,120 know if he even has access to stuff that 1835 01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:34,500 his colleagues don't that he can't talk 1836 01:15:39,950 --> 01:15:36,480 about so 1837 01:15:42,770 --> 01:15:39,960 um yeah go ahead 1838 01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:42,780 no no I agree it's 1839 01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:45,120 the whole interview is just extremely 1840 01:15:50,330 --> 01:15:48,060 fascinating and and I really 1841 01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:50,340 have been a Critic against Gary Nolan 1842 01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,960 but I really believed everything that he 1843 01:15:55,010 --> 01:15:53,520 said in this interview he did a really 1844 01:15:57,649 --> 01:15:55,020 good job especially sitting with 1845 01:15:59,930 --> 01:15:57,659 somebody that he has opposing views with 1846 01:16:02,450 --> 01:15:59,940 right and that made me respect him even 1847 01:16:04,250 --> 01:16:02,460 more I mean it's going to hurt possibly 1848 01:16:06,530 --> 01:16:04,260 could hurt his reputation going on to 1849 01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,540 Chris show so that gave you know I 1850 01:16:09,709 --> 01:16:08,159 thought well damn you know if he's 1851 01:16:12,169 --> 01:16:09,719 willing to do all that just to get his 1852 01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:12,179 just to get his message out and what 1853 01:16:16,490 --> 01:16:14,100 he's trying to say is happening maybe 1854 01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:16,500 there's quite a bit more to it and I 1855 01:16:20,689 --> 01:16:19,020 have been completely wrong on Gary Nolan 1856 01:16:23,630 --> 01:16:20,699 which would be awesome I would love it 1857 01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,640 did you guys hear his Trump dig no I 1858 01:16:28,010 --> 01:16:25,280 didn't 1859 01:16:29,689 --> 01:16:28,020 he said we can build silos against 1860 01:16:31,149 --> 01:16:29,699 ourselves and we could build walls 1861 01:16:34,610 --> 01:16:31,159 around everybody 1862 01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:34,620 yeah of course we know he knew exactly 1863 01:16:40,250 --> 01:16:38,100 who he was uh interviewing with and he 1864 01:16:42,890 --> 01:16:40,260 knew everything about Trump and you know 1865 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:42,900 who Tucker Carlson was about so I was a 1866 01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:44,880 little bit proud that he was able to get 1867 01:16:50,810 --> 01:16:47,460 that little dig in there so 1868 01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:50,820 yeah it's it's uh 1869 01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:53,280 go ahead sorry and he now he said some 1870 01:16:57,950 --> 01:16:54,480 really 1871 01:17:00,290 --> 01:16:57,960 some wild stuff man it's like even 1872 01:17:02,209 --> 01:17:00,300 Skeptics and people you know in the 1873 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,219 community of the Skeptics that I dwell 1874 01:17:08,050 --> 01:17:05,520 in it uh it even rattled down that far 1875 01:17:10,610 --> 01:17:08,060 into the skeptic realm I can tell you so 1876 01:17:12,110 --> 01:17:10,620 that people enjoyed it and they're like 1877 01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,120 damn yeah so maybe somebody needs to 1878 01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:13,679 listen to this there's still no evidence 1879 01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:15,120 that's been presented but the things 1880 01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:17,880 he's saying and all that stuff it makes 1881 01:17:22,370 --> 01:17:20,400 sense and it adds up so yeah why would 1882 01:17:24,290 --> 01:17:22,380 why would somebody like scaring Dr Gary 1883 01:17:25,790 --> 01:17:24,300 Nolan in his position just make up stuff 1884 01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:25,800 I mean you could make the argument oh 1885 01:17:29,930 --> 01:17:27,480 he's been fed all this misinformation 1886 01:17:32,270 --> 01:17:29,940 but I I don't see that but time will 1887 01:17:34,130 --> 01:17:32,280 tell what I'm we're making we're making 1888 01:17:35,630 --> 01:17:34,140 Headway it's slow but it's really not 1889 01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:35,640 slow for me it's not slow because 1890 01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,679 they've been at it since the mid 90s I 1891 01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:39,600 don't I don't think he's making up stuff 1892 01:17:46,189 --> 01:17:42,120 Joe I think that at this point Gary 1893 01:17:48,970 --> 01:17:46,199 Nolan is as unbiased as they come 1894 01:17:54,169 --> 01:17:48,980 because he is so pardon my language 1895 01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:54,179 balls deep into the UFO phenomenon that 1896 01:17:58,669 --> 01:17:56,400 he's gonna be a little bit biased in 1897 01:18:03,890 --> 01:17:58,679 certain areas it's kind of hard to have 1898 01:18:07,070 --> 01:18:03,900 a uh an unbiased scientific view when 1899 01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,080 you have the the same type of mindset 1900 01:18:12,350 --> 01:18:09,600 that Gary Nolan has at this point I 1901 01:18:13,810 --> 01:18:12,360 think at this point no it does matter I 1902 01:18:15,770 --> 01:18:13,820 think that means 1903 01:18:17,930 --> 01:18:15,780 if he writes papers with other 1904 01:18:19,610 --> 01:18:17,940 scientists it doesn't matter how biased 1905 01:18:20,450 --> 01:18:19,620 he is or what his opinions are he's 1906 01:18:22,669 --> 01:18:20,460 always 1907 01:18:24,649 --> 01:18:22,679 well you didn't let me finish I said 1908 01:18:26,810 --> 01:18:24,659 that if he had somebody else who was 1909 01:18:29,450 --> 01:18:26,820 reviewing this stuff and who was going 1910 01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:29,460 over the data and coming through it uh 1911 01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:31,440 with an unbiased opinion I think that's 1912 01:18:39,169 --> 01:18:35,040 okay but Gary Nolan is as biased as they 1913 01:18:44,990 --> 01:18:40,550 why 1914 01:18:49,729 --> 01:18:47,270 a group said the leading I know he's not 1915 01:18:51,290 --> 01:18:49,739 coming up with ideas I'm not saying that 1916 01:18:55,550 --> 01:18:51,300 he's coming up with ideas I'm saying 1917 01:18:58,370 --> 01:18:55,560 people he is absolutely friends with 1918 01:19:00,890 --> 01:18:58,380 um are very intertwined in this subject 1919 01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,900 so he's not an unbiased opinion at this 1920 01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:02,480 point 1921 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,860 it's gonna come down to the data and 1922 01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:06,480 they'll continue to work on papers just 1923 01:19:10,490 --> 01:19:08,400 like the paper he got published in a 1924 01:19:13,490 --> 01:19:10,500 peer review Janet review journal with 1925 01:19:15,050 --> 01:19:13,500 with Jacques ballet so by we're all 1926 01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:15,060 biased especially when you're involved 1927 01:19:18,530 --> 01:19:16,560 if you're an experiencer if you had a 1928 01:19:21,050 --> 01:19:18,540 sighting of course that's biased a 1929 01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:21,060 career review journal with Jacques valet 1930 01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:25,679 is unbiased how dare you you know it's 1931 01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:28,620 as much as I do both of those names are 1932 01:19:31,790 --> 01:19:30,600 biased I'm not I'm not going to spend 1933 01:19:33,050 --> 01:19:31,800 arguing I'm not going to argue about 1934 01:19:34,970 --> 01:19:33,060 this you can argue it on your own time 1935 01:19:37,610 --> 01:19:34,980 I'm sorry this is a waste of time for me 1936 01:19:40,669 --> 01:19:37,620 it's a waste you told me earlier you 1937 01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:40,679 tweeted it out I don't want to argue I 1938 01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,820 don't want to argue if you're in a 1939 01:19:45,470 --> 01:19:43,199 question who his co-author is it's 1940 01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:45,480 totally irrelevant it's the peer people 1941 01:19:49,729 --> 01:19:47,580 who review the paper it's a respected 1942 01:19:52,189 --> 01:19:49,739 paper it wasn't even a country we have 1943 01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:52,199 papers out am I missing these papers 1944 01:19:57,470 --> 01:19:55,500 that he has peer-reviewed papers out 1945 01:19:59,209 --> 01:19:57,480 can you send me those 1946 01:20:00,890 --> 01:19:59,219 I didn't hear okay 1947 01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:00,900 you're talking about peer-reviewed 1948 01:20:04,189 --> 01:20:02,580 papers that Gary Nolan has put out on 1949 01:20:06,649 --> 01:20:04,199 the UFO subject does he have those out 1950 01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:06,659 can I review those can you send those to 1951 01:20:12,830 --> 01:20:09,840 them it's about the it's about the 1952 01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:12,840 Council Bluff material that they got and 1953 01:20:15,770 --> 01:20:14,219 him and Jacques Valley had it published 1954 01:20:17,810 --> 01:20:15,780 I don't know what the journal is but 1955 01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:17,820 it's a mainstream Journal it was a big 1956 01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:19,920 deal you should have read it by now 1957 01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:21,600 um does it say it's extraterrestrial 1958 01:20:26,270 --> 01:20:24,360 material no it's the first part showing 1959 01:20:28,490 --> 01:20:26,280 how you study this material it's a new 1960 01:20:30,050 --> 01:20:28,500 technique he came up with a new 1961 01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:30,060 technique and move to left 1962 01:20:34,430 --> 01:20:32,340 um his new piece of material they used I 1963 01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:34,440 forget what they call the cytop 1964 01:20:39,470 --> 01:20:37,440 um so yeah his co-authors who are his 1965 01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,480 co-authors so I can look them up and I'm 1966 01:20:44,689 --> 01:20:42,000 sorry I may be new to this part of it go 1967 01:20:46,850 --> 01:20:44,699 ahead you can send it to me 1968 01:20:48,770 --> 01:20:46,860 there might have been another paper 1969 01:20:50,689 --> 01:20:48,780 there might have been another co-author 1970 01:20:52,669 --> 01:20:50,699 but valet was one of his authors which 1971 01:20:54,590 --> 01:20:52,679 is irrelevant it's the journal that it 1972 01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:54,600 got published in but it wasn't a 1973 01:20:57,470 --> 01:20:55,980 controversial paper it wasn't like 1974 01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:57,480 saying these are extraterrestrial 1975 01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,239 materials it was this is how we're 1976 01:21:04,250 --> 01:21:02,400 studying this this is how we how we do 1977 01:21:06,350 --> 01:21:04,260 the technique this is not really 1978 01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,360 anything out of the ordinary but going 1979 01:21:09,770 --> 01:21:08,400 forward they'll use that technique to 1980 01:21:12,050 --> 01:21:09,780 study more materials that are more 1981 01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,060 exotic that's the plan that's a really 1982 01:21:16,729 --> 01:21:15,120 big deal to have to have that published 1983 01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:16,739 um I know a lot of people are expecting 1984 01:21:20,689 --> 01:21:19,320 you know the alien result but I did warn 1985 01:21:24,169 --> 01:21:20,699 people I'm like this is a very very 1986 01:21:26,570 --> 01:21:24,179 beginning so don't get too excited 1987 01:21:28,370 --> 01:21:26,580 do you know what year that was 1988 01:21:31,070 --> 01:21:28,380 I think it was this year 1989 01:21:33,770 --> 01:21:31,080 this year this year yeah 1990 01:21:35,810 --> 01:21:33,780 I'll find it I mean okay so I absolutely 1991 01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:35,820 missed that my fault I'm not gonna speak 1992 01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:38,400 on it I know Gary tried to make it 1993 01:21:42,110 --> 01:21:40,560 available for free because it was ex it 1994 01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:42,120 wasn't cheap just to get it you had to 1995 01:21:46,370 --> 01:21:44,400 buy it but I will send it to you I have 1996 01:21:47,330 --> 01:21:46,380 it somewhere on my computer 1997 01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:47,340 um 1998 01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,260 it's a little technical but not too bad 1999 01:21:53,810 --> 01:21:51,840 let me let me I'm gonna try one more 2000 01:21:57,169 --> 01:21:53,820 time for this person and then I will not 2001 01:21:58,910 --> 01:21:57,179 try again DJ Plum Nelly might just be 2002 01:22:02,810 --> 01:21:58,920 playing games DJ Plum Nelly are you 2003 01:22:07,729 --> 01:22:05,330 there he is unmute yourself can't hear 2004 01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:07,739 you unmute yourself 2005 01:22:12,770 --> 01:22:10,739 unmute yourself there you go 2006 01:22:15,709 --> 01:22:12,780 I can't hear you 2007 01:22:17,629 --> 01:22:15,719 we can't hear you 2008 01:22:21,770 --> 01:22:17,639 I'll leave you there I'll add Craig 2009 01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:25,189 Craig can you hear me I can hear you 2010 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:26,639 oh what's up 2011 01:22:36,770 --> 01:22:34,370 oh I just want to make a point that uh 2012 01:22:39,169 --> 01:22:36,780 Nolan having said he's having said he 2013 01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:39,179 met people in the experience cohort and 2014 01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,300 having said he met Chris Bledsoe points 2015 01:22:46,610 --> 01:22:43,920 out that blessed was not in the green 2016 01:22:46,620 --> 01:22:51,830 is that what you were saying Jess 2017 01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:54,229 is that what she said earlier shoot we 2018 01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,199 lost her 2019 01:22:58,850 --> 01:22:57,360 um she was she making that one point 2020 01:23:00,890 --> 01:22:58,860 that it was just because he spoke to 2021 01:23:02,090 --> 01:23:00,900 Chris Bledsoe that meant he spoke to 2022 01:23:05,209 --> 01:23:02,100 people in the cohort is that what she 2023 01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,219 was saying uh that was my understanding 2024 01:23:07,970 --> 01:23:07,199 but I'm not gonna say what you were 2025 01:23:09,890 --> 01:23:07,980 saying 2026 01:23:12,110 --> 01:23:09,900 yeah I was hoping that she would clarify 2027 01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:12,120 that um there she is 2028 01:23:16,430 --> 01:23:13,679 Jess can you clarify that is that what 2029 01:23:22,669 --> 01:23:18,530 you're muted 2030 01:23:26,209 --> 01:23:24,649 okay any other thoughts Craig 2031 01:23:27,530 --> 01:23:26,219 that's a good point not that we're going 2032 01:23:29,810 --> 01:23:27,540 to talk about tonight 2033 01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:29,820 all right thanks thanks for thanks for 2034 01:23:34,490 --> 01:23:32,159 the thanks for chiming in 2035 01:23:39,649 --> 01:23:34,500 Jess were you able to hear that 2036 01:23:43,310 --> 01:23:39,659 all right Ludacris you're there at all 2037 01:23:49,070 --> 01:23:45,530 I think so 2038 01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:49,080 hello go ahead yeah I can hear you yes 2039 01:23:54,169 --> 01:23:51,360 all right 2040 01:23:55,790 --> 01:23:54,179 thanks for being patient 2041 01:23:59,629 --> 01:23:55,800 so 2042 01:24:02,750 --> 01:23:59,639 this is that 2043 01:24:04,189 --> 01:24:02,760 um you don't often hear a lot of talk 2044 01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:04,199 about 2045 01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:07,380 um sound like super high pitch and super 2046 01:24:13,970 --> 01:24:10,080 low pitched frequencies other than 2047 01:24:19,729 --> 01:24:17,510 and I wonder if Dr Nolan or anyone else 2048 01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:19,739 you know of is maybe perhaps 2049 01:24:25,850 --> 01:24:22,800 spoken of how perhaps 2050 01:24:27,950 --> 01:24:25,860 whatever their anti-gravity Tech is or 2051 01:24:30,350 --> 01:24:27,960 anything else could be affected by a say 2052 01:24:32,750 --> 01:24:30,360 like super high pitched or low pitch 2053 01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:32,760 frequencies in the same vein the way 2054 01:24:38,930 --> 01:24:35,580 Nikola Tesla had like you know created 2055 01:24:41,629 --> 01:24:38,940 Bridges out of uh you know basically 2056 01:24:44,330 --> 01:24:41,639 like magnetics 2057 01:24:45,470 --> 01:24:44,340 in regards to what no one said today and 2058 01:24:47,209 --> 01:24:45,480 I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off 2059 01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:47,219 but he specifically said that there was 2060 01:24:52,610 --> 01:24:50,760 no sound can you guys hear me yes sorry 2061 01:24:54,169 --> 01:24:52,620 I didn't bring you in okay yeah he 2062 01:24:55,490 --> 01:24:54,179 specifically said that there was no 2063 01:24:59,570 --> 01:24:55,500 sound 2064 01:25:02,450 --> 01:24:59,580 sonar imagery and that was what Michael 2065 01:25:06,050 --> 01:25:02,460 was talking about earlier where they got 2066 01:25:08,990 --> 01:25:06,060 a an image of what was there but there 2067 01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:09,000 was no audible sound so other than that 2068 01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:11,760 I have no clue I would love to know 2069 01:25:16,189 --> 01:25:14,639 that's a great question so and I will 2070 01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:16,199 write that down and make sure that I ask 2071 01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:21,350 Audible 2072 01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:23,520 in terms of audible sound I'm wondering 2073 01:25:28,910 --> 01:25:26,460 if it's like just some that's beyond our 2074 01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:28,920 that we can't hear but is there 2075 01:25:32,930 --> 01:25:30,719 something perhaps beyond our hearing 2076 01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:32,940 range let's say like bats and dogs and 2077 01:25:37,490 --> 01:25:34,080 other 2078 01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:37,500 species like like a lot of times when 2079 01:25:42,169 --> 01:25:40,320 their sightings for example you often 2080 01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:42,179 hear that like suddenly like 2081 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,000 you know incidental animals and say 2082 01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:47,040 liquid Woods or bugs or whatever like 2083 01:25:50,689 --> 01:25:49,080 everything gets like suddenly quiet 2084 01:25:53,209 --> 01:25:50,699 because like they know something's up 2085 01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,219 because they can maybe hear something 2086 01:25:56,990 --> 01:25:55,440 that we can't and I've just always been 2087 01:25:58,729 --> 01:25:57,000 interested in that aspect of the 2088 01:26:01,070 --> 01:25:58,739 phenomenon 2089 01:26:04,850 --> 01:26:01,080 um but I don't hear people often 2090 01:26:06,290 --> 01:26:04,860 bringing it up so much but maybe a 2091 01:26:10,610 --> 01:26:06,300 little bit off topic than what happened 2092 01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:10,620 today but I thought Dr Nolan was amazing 2093 01:26:18,430 --> 01:26:12,060 um yeah it was great I can't believe 2094 01:26:23,149 --> 01:26:21,110 but it's on YouTube it is on YouTube so 2095 01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:23,159 it'll get a lot of views um I hope I 2096 01:26:27,229 --> 01:26:24,960 hope it's a couple of million views it 2097 01:26:28,669 --> 01:26:27,239 was impressive to hear Lord Ludacris say 2098 01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:28,679 even his skeptical folks were like 2099 01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:30,900 really impressed by Nolan unfortunately 2100 01:26:36,649 --> 01:26:34,800 Justice questioning his unbiased nature 2101 01:26:38,689 --> 01:26:36,659 but I think we're all biased I just 2102 01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,699 think I'm not I'm not questioning him 2103 01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:40,320 I'm just saying he's all over the place 2104 01:26:45,890 --> 01:26:42,960 and he's been fed this information which 2105 01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:45,900 is out of the purview of his scientific 2106 01:26:50,810 --> 01:26:48,719 study like he's a jack of all trades 2107 01:26:52,729 --> 01:26:50,820 even Vine even you brought that up in 2108 01:26:53,470 --> 01:26:52,739 the beginning but now you're questioning 2109 01:26:55,790 --> 01:26:53,480 me 2110 01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:55,800 Nolan was all over the place man he's 2111 01:27:00,649 --> 01:26:58,080 talking about things that are completely 2112 01:27:02,570 --> 01:27:00,659 out of his line of study I think he's 2113 01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,580 passionate about it I think he likes to 2114 01:27:06,830 --> 01:27:05,040 speculate like I love to speculate he's 2115 01:27:08,330 --> 01:27:06,840 gotten hammered for speculating from 2116 01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,340 some hardcore skeptic so I'm like too 2117 01:27:12,290 --> 01:27:10,080 bad he always says you know I know when 2118 01:27:14,570 --> 01:27:12,300 he's speculating it's 99 of this is 2119 01:27:16,370 --> 01:27:14,580 speculation so what was you know what 2120 01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,380 about your your question about him on 2121 01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:18,480 the space is somebody said the guy who 2122 01:27:22,129 --> 01:27:20,040 just called and said you know you said 2123 01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:22,139 that he did not talk to any experiences 2124 01:27:25,310 --> 01:27:23,280 but then you said he met with Chris 2125 01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:25,320 Christopher Bledsoe this person said 2126 01:27:28,610 --> 01:27:27,120 well maybe Bledsoe wasn't in the cohort 2127 01:27:30,110 --> 01:27:28,620 that he was studying as far as the 2128 01:27:31,790 --> 01:27:30,120 experiences would that answer your 2129 01:27:34,669 --> 01:27:31,800 question 2130 01:27:40,910 --> 01:27:37,430 DJ Plum any other thoughts 2131 01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:40,920 um more of um I it's maybe a little off 2132 01:27:46,189 --> 01:27:43,199 topic but it has to do with the 2133 01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:46,199 phenomenon I'm wondering if Edney you or 2134 01:27:52,430 --> 01:27:48,960 any of your listeners are are familiar 2135 01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:52,440 with a uh a jazz artist but also kind of 2136 01:27:57,050 --> 01:27:54,780 a Prophet by the name of sun Raw 2137 01:27:58,370 --> 01:27:57,060 and his music and his lectures and his 2138 01:27:59,870 --> 01:27:58,380 theories 2139 01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,880 um he's been talking about the 2140 01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,880 phenomenon since the 50s and a lot of 2141 01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:04,560 things that he's said in his lectures 2142 01:28:08,990 --> 01:28:07,440 that are were recorded in the 70s and 2143 01:28:11,450 --> 01:28:09,000 80s 2144 01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:11,460 a lot I mean who's dismissed as a as a 2145 01:28:17,810 --> 01:28:14,639 kook so by a lot of people but a lot of 2146 01:28:20,209 --> 01:28:17,820 his like theories about the phenomenon 2147 01:28:22,490 --> 01:28:20,219 and who we are and what happens like 2148 01:28:25,070 --> 01:28:22,500 like life after death but especially as 2149 01:28:27,050 --> 01:28:25,080 related to the phenomenon a lot of if 2150 01:28:29,450 --> 01:28:27,060 there's things like people like Lou and 2151 01:28:31,250 --> 01:28:29,460 Tom Delong and Jacques ballet have been 2152 01:28:35,149 --> 01:28:31,260 confirming in recent years which I find 2153 01:28:36,530 --> 01:28:35,159 just like utterly amazing and his music 2154 01:28:38,510 --> 01:28:36,540 and his 2155 01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,520 his lectures are all online and worth 2156 01:28:41,930 --> 01:28:40,800 listening to they might be a little out 2157 01:28:44,030 --> 01:28:41,940 there 2158 01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:44,040 um but 2159 01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:45,600 um I'd just be curious if like maybe 2160 01:28:49,610 --> 01:28:47,280 like anyone else who studies with 2161 01:28:50,990 --> 01:28:49,620 phenomenon has researched any of the 2162 01:28:52,610 --> 01:28:51,000 things that he's talked about or the 2163 01:28:55,790 --> 01:28:52,620 books that he's recommended people read 2164 01:28:58,189 --> 01:28:55,800 but I also see a lot of you guys saying 2165 01:29:00,290 --> 01:28:58,199 you know check out these books and these 2166 01:29:04,189 --> 01:29:00,300 are in his library from like 2167 01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:04,199 40 50 years ago but the sun Raw Sunrise 2168 01:29:09,050 --> 01:29:07,679 Sunrise as s-u-n-r-a 2169 01:29:10,970 --> 01:29:09,060 um all right he was an interesting 2170 01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:10,980 character I don't want to go off about 2171 01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:13,679 him too much and get off topic but he he 2172 01:29:19,129 --> 01:29:16,320 claimed to be from Saturn 2173 01:29:21,290 --> 01:29:19,139 so my cause my fifth cousin was from 2174 01:29:22,729 --> 01:29:21,300 Saturn so 2175 01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:22,739 I'm gonna let you go because I want to 2176 01:29:26,570 --> 01:29:24,000 get through I want to get through them 2177 01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:26,580 yes of course thank you thank you for 2178 01:29:30,530 --> 01:29:28,080 waiting and being patient 2179 01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:30,540 no thank you guys 2180 01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:32,639 all right have a good night 2181 01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,239 all I see is Jess is a skeptical 2182 01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:40,800 I told that person to don't say anything 2183 01:29:46,129 --> 01:29:42,480 bad about anybody if they say it again I 2184 01:29:47,870 --> 01:29:46,139 will block them so I mean I think all of 2185 01:29:50,209 --> 01:29:47,880 the question the questions that I've 2186 01:29:52,810 --> 01:29:50,219 asked I think have been fair I'm not 2187 01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:52,820 being skeptical I listen to everyone 2188 01:29:58,910 --> 01:29:56,639 else has I just think when you question 2189 01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:58,920 a co-writer who has a peer-reviewed 2190 01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,199 paper and say it's Jacques valet and and 2191 01:30:05,810 --> 01:30:03,840 that's nothing it doesn't matter if you 2192 01:30:08,209 --> 01:30:05,820 have a it's a really respected Journal 2193 01:30:10,010 --> 01:30:08,219 mainstream Journal I could be the writer 2194 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:10,020 my dog could be the writer it doesn't 2195 01:30:13,729 --> 01:30:11,760 matter as long as the material got peer 2196 01:30:16,010 --> 01:30:13,739 reviewed and it's a very respect very 2197 01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:16,020 respected Journal but it's only the 2198 01:30:19,729 --> 01:30:17,760 beginning it's not like like I said it's 2199 01:30:22,129 --> 01:30:19,739 not what we want it's not what we need 2200 01:30:24,110 --> 01:30:22,139 but it's the first step and it's a big 2201 01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:24,120 deal because UFO stuff isn't peer 2202 01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:25,920 reviewed so for him to get that in there 2203 01:30:30,830 --> 01:30:28,320 and it's basically talks about UFOs and 2204 01:30:32,689 --> 01:30:30,840 stuff coming off of a UFO and being on 2205 01:30:35,629 --> 01:30:32,699 the ground molten metal is a really big 2206 01:30:38,990 --> 01:30:35,639 deal so no I understand that it's a big 2207 01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,000 deal but you told me like look at their 2208 01:30:43,610 --> 01:30:41,520 co-writers and then you say I say who's 2209 01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:43,620 their co-writer and you say John ballet 2210 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:45,120 and I'm like oh he's not going to be 2211 01:30:50,689 --> 01:30:48,540 biased at all so then just is a 2212 01:30:53,629 --> 01:30:50,699 skeptical because you got Gary 2213 01:30:55,550 --> 01:30:53,639 Nolan's dog palette it doesn't matter if 2214 01:30:57,050 --> 01:30:55,560 shop valet is the biggest believer in 2215 01:30:59,629 --> 01:30:57,060 the world if it makes it through peer 2216 01:31:01,310 --> 01:30:59,639 review that's all that matters if it's 2217 01:31:03,410 --> 01:31:01,320 in a respected Journal like I said it 2218 01:31:04,910 --> 01:31:03,420 doesn't matter who's writing it if it's 2219 01:31:06,410 --> 01:31:04,920 making it through peer review and it's 2220 01:31:09,649 --> 01:31:06,420 published that's all that matters but 2221 01:31:12,830 --> 01:31:09,659 anyway okay so Jean valet no no no no no 2222 01:31:15,050 --> 01:31:12,840 you can't move on Joe you you said so 2223 01:31:17,930 --> 01:31:15,060 Jacques Finlay and Gary Nolan neither of 2224 01:31:19,310 --> 01:31:17,940 them are a little bit biased and any 2225 01:31:20,930 --> 01:31:19,320 part of what they're doing right now 2226 01:31:22,729 --> 01:31:20,940 whatever they're writing what are they 2227 01:31:25,790 --> 01:31:22,739 producing 2228 01:31:28,010 --> 01:31:25,800 all biased but that was my only point 2229 01:31:30,229 --> 01:31:28,020 I know but that doesn't matter as far as 2230 01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:30,239 all right I'll just I'll just I'll just 2231 01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:32,340 bow I don't want to argue about that one 2232 01:31:39,290 --> 01:31:37,490 I have so many notes no it wasn't it 2233 01:31:40,610 --> 01:31:39,300 wasn't I wasn't arguing about bias I was 2234 01:31:43,070 --> 01:31:40,620 arguing about 2235 01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:43,080 the relevancy as far as a paper being 2236 01:31:46,970 --> 01:31:45,600 published in a mainstream Journal it 2237 01:31:50,090 --> 01:31:46,980 doesn't matter if they're biased it 2238 01:31:51,470 --> 01:31:50,100 matters if their paper was well written 2239 01:31:54,290 --> 01:31:51,480 well enough and their data was strong 2240 01:31:55,310 --> 01:31:54,300 enough to get by peer review and it did 2241 01:31:56,990 --> 01:31:55,320 so 2242 01:31:58,850 --> 01:31:57,000 that's that's the only thing I care 2243 01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:58,860 about as far as the paper 2244 01:32:02,090 --> 01:32:00,239 um as far as him being all over the 2245 01:32:04,370 --> 01:32:02,100 place yeah so was Hal put off it's it's 2246 01:32:06,709 --> 01:32:04,380 a it's a huge subject I'm glad he went 2247 01:32:09,709 --> 01:32:06,719 all those places it's speculation 2248 01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:09,719 obviously I like the speculation we 2249 01:32:14,510 --> 01:32:12,000 don't really know and nobody knows as 2250 01:32:16,370 --> 01:32:14,520 far as I know but I don't mind him you 2251 01:32:17,689 --> 01:32:16,380 know getting out of his Lane for That 2252 01:32:19,550 --> 01:32:17,699 interview and other interviews but I 2253 01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:19,560 think in His science the paper that he 2254 01:32:24,290 --> 01:32:21,360 did that's his Lane whether it's 2255 01:32:26,209 --> 01:32:24,300 materials or blood and studying with his 2256 01:32:28,790 --> 01:32:26,219 device that he helped invent you know 2257 01:32:30,830 --> 01:32:28,800 that I think that's his scientific Focus 2258 01:32:32,450 --> 01:32:30,840 but I think he's willing I mean he's 2259 01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:32,460 he's had his experience so he wants to 2260 01:32:36,649 --> 01:32:34,800 talk about it I mean understandable of 2261 01:32:39,350 --> 01:32:36,659 course I mean I haven't seen it unless 2262 01:32:42,169 --> 01:32:39,360 until I re read the review like I can't 2263 01:32:43,490 --> 01:32:42,179 really speak on it anymore so go ahead 2264 01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:43,500 all right 2265 01:32:50,990 --> 01:32:49,310 he said his colleagues you know they're 2266 01:32:52,070 --> 01:32:51,000 coming up to him they were coming up to 2267 01:32:54,590 --> 01:32:52,080 him saying you gotta ruin your 2268 01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,600 reputation Gary but he's somebody has 2269 01:32:58,610 --> 01:32:56,400 always gone Against the Grain and he's 2270 01:32:59,990 --> 01:32:58,620 doing fine with his career uh which I 2271 01:33:01,550 --> 01:33:00,000 would think you would respect because I 2272 01:33:03,169 --> 01:33:01,560 think we've got we go against the grain 2273 01:33:05,330 --> 01:33:03,179 a lot of us a lot of us go against the 2274 01:33:07,430 --> 01:33:05,340 grain um and he said it's unscientific 2275 01:33:10,010 --> 01:33:07,440 to not study this otherwise you're like 2276 01:33:12,890 --> 01:33:10,020 a priest and then Carlson said Thank you 2277 01:33:14,689 --> 01:33:12,900 thank you for saying that oh I'm like 2278 01:33:17,229 --> 01:33:14,699 what is Tucker Carlson like our now he's 2279 01:33:19,550 --> 01:33:17,239 the face of ufology 2280 01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:19,560 I know I don't believe that but it's 2281 01:33:21,950 --> 01:33:20,880 good that he's doing his interviews I 2282 01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:21,960 can't I'm not I can't say anything 2283 01:33:26,990 --> 01:33:24,960 negative negative about that you know 2284 01:33:28,250 --> 01:33:27,000 um development of tech 2285 01:33:29,570 --> 01:33:28,260 so basically he was involved in 2286 01:33:32,030 --> 01:33:29,580 development of tech to look at cancer 2287 01:33:34,490 --> 01:33:32,040 and blood uh started and sold companies 2288 01:33:36,649 --> 01:33:34,500 this is Nolan's short bio uh two of them 2289 01:33:38,330 --> 01:33:36,659 are on the NASDAQ he developed a cytop 2290 01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:38,340 which is an instrument to study blood 2291 01:33:44,090 --> 01:33:40,320 cells at a deeper level that than ever 2292 01:33:46,129 --> 01:33:44,100 before ever before 2011 he says the CIA 2293 01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:46,139 and an aerospace company came to him and 2294 01:33:49,310 --> 01:33:48,000 I know at least two of the people who 2295 01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:49,320 came to him 2296 01:33:52,970 --> 01:33:51,120 um because somebody can you tell us who 2297 01:33:54,290 --> 01:33:52,980 do we know I know I shouldn't have said 2298 01:33:55,790 --> 01:33:54,300 that or at least I can at least I said 2299 01:33:58,610 --> 01:33:55,800 that 2300 01:34:01,010 --> 01:33:58,620 um I can't tell you so we have CIA we 2301 01:34:02,930 --> 01:34:01,020 know kit green all right and we know 2302 01:34:06,530 --> 01:34:02,940 that kit green and Carrie Gary Nolan 2303 01:34:08,870 --> 01:34:06,540 have had an relationship for a very very 2304 01:34:10,510 --> 01:34:08,880 long time and we know that the Aerospace 2305 01:34:14,510 --> 01:34:10,520 company was probably 2306 01:34:17,950 --> 01:34:14,520 Bigelow or Bass during uh you know at 2307 01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:17,960 that point in time uh and 2308 01:34:28,970 --> 01:34:26,629 I just can't even talk about it without 2309 01:34:31,550 --> 01:34:28,980 laughing because it's so absolutely 2310 01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:31,560 ridiculous we know who everybody that 2311 01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,600 he's talking about is like why would he 2312 01:34:37,729 --> 01:34:35,520 even hide it at this point probably 2313 01:34:38,750 --> 01:34:37,739 whoever it is probably made an agreement 2314 01:34:40,129 --> 01:34:38,760 and he's sticking to his agreement 2315 01:34:41,930 --> 01:34:40,139 that's usually a lot of what this stuff 2316 01:34:44,689 --> 01:34:41,940 is just like Wilson 2317 01:34:47,090 --> 01:34:44,699 I mean I'm not sure about the legalities 2318 01:34:48,830 --> 01:34:47,100 of that with Eric Davis but and will 2319 01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:48,840 Miller I know will Miller got so much 2320 01:34:52,609 --> 01:34:50,820 Flack from Wilson in that if you saw you 2321 01:34:54,109 --> 01:34:52,619 know when you read the documents that he 2322 01:34:55,850 --> 01:34:54,119 just stabbed him in the back basically 2323 01:34:57,470 --> 01:34:55,860 by talking to the Boston Globe and 2324 01:35:00,050 --> 01:34:57,480 Leslie Kane 2325 01:35:02,209 --> 01:35:00,060 um so yeah they came to him and they 2326 01:35:04,669 --> 01:35:02,219 they asked Nolan for help with the 2327 01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:04,679 experiences with injuries and you know 2328 01:35:07,970 --> 01:35:06,480 they were told that cytoph and Nolan 2329 01:35:09,530 --> 01:35:07,980 could help them study it because it's an 2330 01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:09,540 advanced machine 2331 01:35:14,990 --> 01:35:12,080 um he first thoughts 2332 01:35:16,430 --> 01:35:15,000 on Candid Camera and then they told him 2333 01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:16,440 people had died and he realized it was 2334 01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:19,199 serious go ahead so Chris bledso said 2335 01:35:23,450 --> 01:35:21,360 that he was the first 2336 01:35:24,890 --> 01:35:23,460 I mean I'm not sure if this is true or 2337 01:35:27,770 --> 01:35:24,900 not but this is coming out of his mouth 2338 01:35:30,649 --> 01:35:27,780 he said that he was the very first case 2339 01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:30,659 that they reviewed do you have any uh 2340 01:35:34,850 --> 01:35:33,480 idea if that's true I don't know and you 2341 01:35:36,830 --> 01:35:34,860 know I've heard him I think he talked 2342 01:35:38,270 --> 01:35:36,840 about that I remember when that came out 2343 01:35:39,530 --> 01:35:38,280 um I was thinking maybe it was awesome 2344 01:35:42,169 --> 01:35:39,540 but 2345 01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:42,179 I remember Lou was asked about blood so 2346 01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,119 I think it was Project Unity and his 2347 01:35:50,090 --> 01:35:47,040 he was very 2348 01:35:52,010 --> 01:35:50,100 he wasn't negative but he was not he was 2349 01:35:53,689 --> 01:35:52,020 I need to get that interview that little 2350 01:35:55,550 --> 01:35:53,699 part transcribed and I remember planning 2351 01:35:57,410 --> 01:35:55,560 on doing it he wasn't too high on blood 2352 01:36:02,629 --> 01:35:57,420 cell from what I got from that interview 2353 01:36:05,810 --> 01:36:02,639 so blesso said on episode one of the 2354 01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:05,820 four-part review that he did with 2355 01:36:13,729 --> 01:36:10,260 um what's his name Dolan yeah he said 2356 01:36:16,430 --> 01:36:13,739 that he was the very first case the atip 2357 01:36:19,010 --> 01:36:16,440 which we know was like a bleed over to 2358 01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,020 you know atip what all set blood over 2359 01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:21,600 into ajith so he said that he was the 2360 01:36:26,390 --> 01:36:23,760 very first case that they reviewed so 2361 01:36:28,729 --> 01:36:26,400 when Nolan comes out and he says Hey I 2362 01:36:30,830 --> 01:36:28,739 was asked in 2011. I'm immediately 2363 01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:30,840 thinking okay that's scary that's uh 2364 01:36:34,430 --> 01:36:33,119 Chris Bledsoe who he's talking about he 2365 01:36:36,350 --> 01:36:34,440 would never say that but yeah I don't 2366 01:36:38,090 --> 01:36:36,360 know I don't know um I'll have to pull 2367 01:36:39,470 --> 01:36:38,100 up the little interview was interesting 2368 01:36:42,350 --> 01:36:39,480 because I was like man lose a little 2369 01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:42,360 little semi-negative against Bledsoe 2370 01:36:46,129 --> 01:36:44,400 here and I but that's my memory I need 2371 01:36:49,550 --> 01:36:46,139 to pull it up I don't want to say that 2372 01:36:52,490 --> 01:36:49,560 for sure until I see that so the injured 2373 01:36:54,590 --> 01:36:52,500 folks were military personnel Intel 2374 01:36:56,030 --> 01:36:54,600 folks on the ground a few Pilots they 2375 01:36:57,950 --> 01:36:56,040 got too close to whatever this object 2376 01:36:59,810 --> 01:36:57,960 was they got injured and then he brought 2377 01:37:02,330 --> 01:36:59,820 up rendelstrom from 1980 December of 2378 01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:02,340 1980 I think it was December 26th 27th 2379 01:37:06,770 --> 01:37:04,320 and 28th I might be wrong on the two 2380 01:37:08,510 --> 01:37:06,780 dates uh it was Burrows 2381 01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:08,520 um got injured and McCain had to get 2382 01:37:10,970 --> 01:37:10,080 involved to get his medical records 2383 01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:10,980 because they wouldn't give him his 2384 01:37:15,169 --> 01:37:12,960 medical records for some unknown reason 2385 01:37:16,669 --> 01:37:15,179 and then unless you know you could say 2386 01:37:18,109 --> 01:37:16,679 well because it was a secret U.S 2387 01:37:19,550 --> 01:37:18,119 military test and they didn't want to 2388 01:37:21,709 --> 01:37:19,560 give him I'm sure people have said that 2389 01:37:23,330 --> 01:37:21,719 burrows touched the crap I thought it 2390 01:37:25,070 --> 01:37:23,340 was peniston other people said that and 2391 01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:25,080 it was four to five feet across with 2392 01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:27,360 strange writing and weren't John 2393 01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:29,400 bellro's injuries because of him getting 2394 01:37:32,330 --> 01:37:30,960 close to contact to that craft there's 2395 01:37:34,250 --> 01:37:32,340 no way to prove that you know he might 2396 01:37:35,090 --> 01:37:34,260 have had it beforehand 2397 01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:35,100 um 2398 01:37:40,189 --> 01:37:36,719 so do you think the case that he was 2399 01:37:42,109 --> 01:37:40,199 speaking about was Bledsoe or rendlesham 2400 01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:42,119 no he's talking about Randall shim there 2401 01:37:44,930 --> 01:37:43,679 I mean he's mentioned in Burrows just I 2402 01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:44,940 just think peniston was the one that 2403 01:37:48,649 --> 01:37:46,560 touched the craft 2404 01:37:50,750 --> 01:37:48,659 I'm talking about the first case that he 2405 01:37:53,149 --> 01:37:50,760 brought up like in 2011 when he was 2406 01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,159 approached with an unnamed Aerospace 2407 01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:56,159 contractor and a CIA agent like I mean 2408 01:38:01,370 --> 01:37:59,040 our officer I guess uh who do you think 2409 01:38:03,530 --> 01:38:01,380 that he was speaking about in that 2410 01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:03,540 interview I don't know I don't know I 2411 01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:04,800 would never ask him that because if 2412 01:38:07,490 --> 01:38:06,239 that's privacy I know that's he's not 2413 01:38:09,229 --> 01:38:07,500 going to answer that 2414 01:38:11,390 --> 01:38:09,239 um could have been a personal opinion 2415 01:38:12,649 --> 01:38:11,400 man come on I don't know I don't know 2416 01:38:15,530 --> 01:38:12,659 who he's talking about I really don't 2417 01:38:16,910 --> 01:38:15,540 know um somebody said how does Joe know 2418 01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:16,920 the notes are real because they have 2419 01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:18,480 sources I trust on that one in a 2420 01:38:22,189 --> 01:38:19,679 position to know that's all I'm going to 2421 01:38:23,689 --> 01:38:22,199 say multiple sources so 2422 01:38:25,129 --> 01:38:23,699 um I have zero doubt but I came to that 2423 01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:25,139 conclusion even before I spoke to those 2424 01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,639 sources I came to my conclusion after 2425 01:38:30,890 --> 01:38:28,560 working on that Mega blog and just going 2426 01:38:32,930 --> 01:38:30,900 over it and questioning myself over and 2427 01:38:34,430 --> 01:38:32,940 over and over again and a couple of 2428 01:38:35,629 --> 01:38:34,440 little things here and there which I 2429 01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,639 can't share but just little things 2430 01:38:38,330 --> 01:38:37,679 people would share with me 2431 01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:38,340 um 2432 01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:39,840 all right if people are going to take 2433 01:38:44,930 --> 01:38:42,960 insult I'm blocking you sorry no I'm 2434 01:38:47,950 --> 01:38:44,940 gonna get rid of people 2435 01:38:50,930 --> 01:38:47,960 let me just block somebody taking shots 2436 01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:50,940 people can insult me all day long I 2437 01:38:54,109 --> 01:38:53,040 don't really care uh what I'm asking is 2438 01:38:56,450 --> 01:38:54,119 relevant 2439 01:38:58,370 --> 01:38:56,460 you are you are opinionated and you 2440 01:39:00,530 --> 01:38:58,380 speak your mind and we go at it and 2441 01:39:02,450 --> 01:39:00,540 that's just how it is and that's fine so 2442 01:39:03,649 --> 01:39:02,460 too bad I'm not gonna let people insult 2443 01:39:06,050 --> 01:39:03,659 you I'm not gonna let people insult 2444 01:39:07,310 --> 01:39:06,060 anybody except me you can insult me but 2445 01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:07,320 I'm not letting anybody insult anybody 2446 01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:08,880 else um 2447 01:39:16,129 --> 01:39:10,320 now how do I get rid of this stupid 2448 01:39:19,129 --> 01:39:18,050 she only claims so-and-so all right I'm 2449 01:39:20,750 --> 01:39:19,139 getting rid of that person another 2450 01:39:23,689 --> 01:39:20,760 insult sorry 2451 01:39:28,490 --> 01:39:26,510 I told you I told you it was going to be 2452 01:39:29,629 --> 01:39:28,500 hell like you asked me on some people 2453 01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:29,639 are out 2454 01:39:33,530 --> 01:39:30,960 got me 2455 01:39:35,450 --> 01:39:33,540 I'm trying to be fair and unbiased and 2456 01:39:36,530 --> 01:39:35,460 I'm trying to like a lot but I loved 2457 01:39:37,370 --> 01:39:36,540 having you on and you have a lot of 2458 01:39:38,810 --> 01:39:37,380 knowledge and I know you're a 2459 01:39:40,250 --> 01:39:38,820 firecracker and you're a lightning rod 2460 01:39:41,930 --> 01:39:40,260 for controversy and you say things that 2461 01:39:46,189 --> 01:39:41,940 piss people off like I do but you're 2462 01:39:48,830 --> 01:39:47,090 um 2463 01:39:51,890 --> 01:39:48,840 let's see 2464 01:39:54,290 --> 01:39:51,900 where did I leave off so come here 2465 01:39:55,970 --> 01:39:54,300 come here hold on 2466 01:39:58,430 --> 01:39:55,980 hold on 2467 01:40:02,870 --> 01:39:58,440 come here oh 2468 01:40:05,450 --> 01:40:02,880 he's digging and I'm gonna read oh 2469 01:40:08,750 --> 01:40:05,460 here he is 2470 01:40:10,430 --> 01:40:08,760 so say hello to Jess 2471 01:40:15,770 --> 01:40:10,440 that's cookie 2472 01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:18,109 um so the MRI show internal scarring and 2473 01:40:20,810 --> 01:40:19,920 that made it serious for him he was like 2474 01:40:23,450 --> 01:40:20,820 you know I don't care if it's the 2475 01:40:25,609 --> 01:40:23,460 Russians or UFOs we need to study that 2476 01:40:26,750 --> 01:40:25,619 because that's what scientists do which 2477 01:40:28,250 --> 01:40:26,760 of course 2478 01:40:31,070 --> 01:40:28,260 um injured folks with military personnel 2479 01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:31,080 Intel folks on the ground a few Pilots 2480 01:40:34,910 --> 01:40:32,880 and I said this already 2481 01:40:36,770 --> 01:40:34,920 um so that that is real conclusions not 2482 01:40:38,270 --> 01:40:36,780 so much he doesn't he didn't have any 2483 01:40:41,090 --> 01:40:38,280 deep knowledge of the subject when those 2484 01:40:42,649 --> 01:40:41,100 guys visited him in 2000 level 11 he 2485 01:40:44,209 --> 01:40:42,659 says the best minds think this is not 2486 01:40:46,729 --> 01:40:44,219 from Earth and I think he would adjust 2487 01:40:48,649 --> 01:40:46,739 that saying it's not human or it's not 2488 01:40:50,209 --> 01:40:48,659 from any government we know I mean could 2489 01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,219 could still be from Earth I think he's 2490 01:40:53,209 --> 01:40:52,320 spoken about that before 2491 01:40:55,970 --> 01:40:53,219 um 2492 01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,980 and for him to be sure about you know as 2493 01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:57,360 far as crash retrievals and stuff like 2494 01:41:01,729 --> 01:41:00,000 that he needs to see it for himself 2495 01:41:03,290 --> 01:41:01,739 um you need to see an alien body 2496 01:41:05,390 --> 01:41:03,300 otherwise he'll remain skeptical I'm 2497 01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:05,400 like that too I love that stuff I think 2498 01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:07,679 we have it but I need to see it um and I 2499 01:41:10,129 --> 01:41:08,880 want to see people who say they've 2500 01:41:11,870 --> 01:41:10,139 studied that 2501 01:41:13,370 --> 01:41:11,880 um and one of my favorite things is he's 2502 01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:13,380 like why study this he's like because 2503 01:41:16,669 --> 01:41:14,880 it's the most important thing and this 2504 01:41:18,169 --> 01:41:16,679 might have been Tucker most important 2505 01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:18,179 thing that could have ever happened to 2506 01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:19,920 human beings of course how would people 2507 01:41:26,030 --> 01:41:21,840 how are people not interested in this 2508 01:41:28,729 --> 01:41:26,040 how is how is 99.9 of the people I know 2509 01:41:30,169 --> 01:41:28,739 family and friends just don't care I 2510 01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:30,179 don't get it just I don't care I don't 2511 01:41:34,850 --> 01:41:32,159 get it I mean I don't get it either 2512 01:41:37,970 --> 01:41:34,860 that's exactly what I've been asking for 2513 01:41:40,609 --> 01:41:37,980 years upon years now uh can I bring 2514 01:41:41,930 --> 01:41:40,619 something up yes and also why is the 2515 01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:41,940 media just ignoring this still we're 2516 01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:43,440 getting more progress with Congress how 2517 01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:45,119 is the media not covering this it's a 2518 01:41:49,550 --> 01:41:47,520 baffling to me Tucker Carlson's the only 2519 01:41:52,189 --> 01:41:49,560 one that's interested I mean I mean CNN 2520 01:41:54,410 --> 01:41:52,199 has the six-part series but where's 2521 01:41:56,030 --> 01:41:54,420 MSNBC where are the networks it's a this 2522 01:41:59,810 --> 01:41:56,040 is a ratings Bonanza you think they 2523 01:42:02,750 --> 01:41:59,820 would be all over that go ahead sorry 2524 01:42:05,450 --> 01:42:02,760 he brought up a civilization in the 2525 01:42:08,270 --> 01:42:05,460 jungle and I even said that I even 2526 01:42:09,370 --> 01:42:08,280 thought that he said that he was uh he 2527 01:42:11,810 --> 01:42:09,380 studied 2528 01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:11,820 evolutionary biology 2529 01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:13,760 and this is where he brought up the 2530 01:42:19,370 --> 01:42:18,000 avatars and biological robots 2531 01:42:20,990 --> 01:42:19,380 um 2532 01:42:24,109 --> 01:42:21,000 and he said 2533 01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:24,119 if you're going to send something to 2534 01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:25,920 another planet you would want it to look 2535 01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:27,960 like you and he was speaking about the 2536 01:42:33,470 --> 01:42:30,239 Grays and all of the sightings 2537 01:42:37,609 --> 01:42:33,480 but if you really want to get technical 2538 01:42:39,470 --> 01:42:37,619 look at our Mars rovers look at our 2539 01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:39,480 lunar Rovers look at everything that 2540 01:42:43,310 --> 01:42:41,280 we've sent everywhere else nothing looks 2541 01:42:44,930 --> 01:42:43,320 like humans yeah but we're not I don't 2542 01:42:46,850 --> 01:42:44,940 know if you see anybody there we're just 2543 01:42:48,530 --> 01:42:46,860 trying to We're just trying to well you 2544 01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:48,540 know they're not they're not necessarily 2545 01:42:52,870 --> 01:42:51,119 communicating with us we've 2546 01:42:55,850 --> 01:42:52,880 um 2547 01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:55,860 how is it different because when we go 2548 01:42:58,970 --> 01:42:56,880 to Mars 2549 01:43:00,410 --> 01:42:58,980 we're not we're assuming there's not 2550 01:43:02,570 --> 01:43:00,420 life there we're just trying to pick up 2551 01:43:03,649 --> 01:43:02,580 pictures and data if they're here and 2552 01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:03,659 they're trying if they're trying to 2553 01:43:07,310 --> 01:43:05,699 communicate with then they would pick 2554 01:43:08,930 --> 01:43:07,320 something and this is all speculation 2555 01:43:10,189 --> 01:43:08,940 he's speculating too they would try to 2556 01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:10,199 pick something that would look like us 2557 01:43:13,370 --> 01:43:12,000 that doesn't freak us out more than we 2558 01:43:14,930 --> 01:43:13,380 would be freaked out that's the 2559 01:43:16,729 --> 01:43:14,940 speculation of why they look like that 2560 01:43:18,890 --> 01:43:16,739 and why they use avatars maybe they're 2561 01:43:20,209 --> 01:43:18,900 not even physical I mean they need 2562 01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:20,219 something that we're going to understand 2563 01:43:25,850 --> 01:43:23,520 but at least see as alien but that's the 2564 01:43:27,649 --> 01:43:25,860 speculation you know but Mars we're not 2565 01:43:29,390 --> 01:43:27,659 sending anything that looks like there's 2566 01:43:31,129 --> 01:43:29,400 nothing on Mars as far as we know do I 2567 01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:31,139 think there's stuff on Mars yes I don't 2568 01:43:35,930 --> 01:43:34,080 know about beings but so that's not I 2569 01:43:38,810 --> 01:43:35,940 don't think that's a fair comparison 2570 01:43:42,530 --> 01:43:38,820 all I'm saying is it reminded me of 2571 01:43:44,570 --> 01:43:42,540 Linda Moulton Howe and her biological 2572 01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:44,580 Androids and their meat suits that they 2573 01:43:48,890 --> 01:43:45,600 were wearing 2574 01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:48,900 and it was kind of like oh he's not 2575 01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:50,400 going down the road of Linda Moulton how 2576 01:43:56,450 --> 01:43:54,719 is he so if he does ever Venture down 2577 01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:56,460 that Avenue without something to bring 2578 01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:59,040 to back it up that's where I'm tapping 2579 01:44:04,370 --> 01:44:01,679 out on Gary Nolan but from what he said 2580 01:44:05,330 --> 01:44:04,380 I don't think so I think that he was I'm 2581 01:44:06,649 --> 01:44:05,340 not going to argue about it I'm not 2582 01:44:10,250 --> 01:44:06,659 gonna you're gonna say things like that 2583 01:44:12,350 --> 01:44:10,260 against Nolan just okay no no I said if 2584 01:44:14,209 --> 01:44:12,360 he ever goes down the Linda Moulton Howe 2585 01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:14,219 route then that's when I would tell at 2586 01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,040 the moment he didn't say that he said 2587 01:44:22,430 --> 01:44:19,199 that we are possibly sending out you 2588 01:44:25,609 --> 01:44:22,440 know robots or biological uh avatars 2589 01:44:28,729 --> 01:44:25,619 which I could see as long as he didn't 2590 01:44:31,310 --> 01:44:28,739 go into that whole reptilian meat suit 2591 01:44:33,649 --> 01:44:31,320 type thing then I'm good 2592 01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,659 yeah I I need to you know when I'm 2593 01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:35,280 transcribing an interview it's hard for 2594 01:44:38,030 --> 01:44:36,239 me to even 2595 01:44:39,290 --> 01:44:38,040 remember the first time I'm going 2596 01:44:41,570 --> 01:44:39,300 through so I need to go through it again 2597 01:44:42,649 --> 01:44:41,580 and I'll have Michael on and go piece by 2598 01:44:43,850 --> 01:44:42,659 piece because I know he wants to go 2599 01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:43,860 through it again 2600 01:44:46,970 --> 01:44:44,639 um 2601 01:44:49,790 --> 01:44:46,980 where did I leave off 2602 01:44:51,290 --> 01:44:49,800 um so like I said I was surprised he 2603 01:44:53,450 --> 01:44:51,300 said you know he thinks it's been here a 2604 01:44:54,890 --> 01:44:53,460 long time and if that's the case whose 2605 01:44:56,450 --> 01:44:54,900 plan it is it which I thought was a big 2606 01:44:58,430 --> 01:44:56,460 deal to mention on a show that's going 2607 01:45:00,890 --> 01:44:58,440 to get a lot of views just to put that 2608 01:45:02,930 --> 01:45:00,900 idea out there as a possibility 2609 01:45:05,450 --> 01:45:02,940 they may not care necessarily much about 2610 01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:05,460 us uh if it wanted to wipe us out it 2611 01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:07,440 could it hasn't so far so why be 2612 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,880 concerned of course I don't necessarily 2613 01:45:12,590 --> 01:45:10,320 agree with that maybe they're on a 2614 01:45:14,750 --> 01:45:12,600 thousand year plan who knows I I don't 2615 01:45:15,890 --> 01:45:14,760 really worry about that either if it's 2616 01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:15,900 going to happen he said there's nothing 2617 01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:17,760 really we could do about it 2618 01:45:21,229 --> 01:45:19,679 um our abductions real or is it 2619 01:45:23,330 --> 01:45:21,239 something that's imposed on the folks as 2620 01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:23,340 an altered reality memory he doesn't 2621 01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:25,679 know and yeah that's the problem and Lou 2622 01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:26,880 talks about it we don't know if it's 2623 01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:29,040 physical but the experiences have the 2624 01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:30,719 memory as if it's a real memory just 2625 01:45:34,669 --> 01:45:32,639 like my labs when semivan talked about 2626 01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:34,679 my labs in his interview with iandoli 2627 01:45:38,209 --> 01:45:36,719 he's like I have a hard time believing 2628 01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:38,219 that's really going on it may be 2629 01:45:41,209 --> 01:45:39,840 something they're imposing over on the 2630 01:45:42,590 --> 01:45:41,219 experience to make them think it's 2631 01:45:44,450 --> 01:45:42,600 aliens and humans working together 2632 01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:44,460 because it would take such a large 2633 01:45:47,390 --> 01:45:46,080 infrastructure that I can't see that 2634 01:45:49,970 --> 01:45:47,400 happening and he goes I'm not totally 2635 01:45:52,430 --> 01:45:49,980 closing my mind to it but it may just be 2636 01:45:55,070 --> 01:45:52,440 some sort of reality and our our friend 2637 01:45:56,689 --> 01:45:55,080 Charlie Charlie Paris he talks about 2638 01:45:58,370 --> 01:45:56,699 that he doesn't believe this is my labs 2639 01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:58,380 and it may just be yeah I mean they're 2640 01:46:03,290 --> 01:46:00,719 telling the truth he did say he semifant 2641 01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:03,300 said he believed Melinda Leslie 100 but 2642 01:46:06,649 --> 01:46:04,560 he doesn't know if it's a real physical 2643 01:46:09,050 --> 01:46:06,659 thing that's happening with aliens and 2644 01:46:10,669 --> 01:46:09,060 Military combined in their experiences 2645 01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,679 you know I know Whitley spieber also 2646 01:46:15,229 --> 01:46:12,960 reported military not military but 2647 01:46:18,350 --> 01:46:15,239 humans and Aliens go ahead 2648 01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:18,360 I can't wait to see uh what Charlie 2649 01:46:23,330 --> 01:46:20,159 comes up with because I've been waiting 2650 01:46:25,490 --> 01:46:23,340 for it for a while he's a good buddy 2651 01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:25,500 um I think that he's 2652 01:46:33,410 --> 01:46:29,760 I think that he has a good uh mindset 2653 01:46:35,810 --> 01:46:33,420 where he's not too far on either side I 2654 01:46:38,629 --> 01:46:35,820 know that he has done a lot of research 2655 01:46:41,390 --> 01:46:38,639 into the abduction phenomenon so I'm 2656 01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,400 just I'm waiting like everybody else 2657 01:46:44,930 --> 01:46:43,920 yeah he's put nine years of work into it 2658 01:46:46,370 --> 01:46:44,940 for people who don't know we're talking 2659 01:46:47,209 --> 01:46:46,380 about Charlie Parrish he's been working 2660 01:46:53,629 --> 01:46:47,219 on 2661 01:46:55,550 --> 01:46:53,639 materials from David Jacobs Bud Hopkins 2662 01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:55,560 and John Mack he has everything and he's 2663 01:46:58,430 --> 01:46:57,119 been working on it for a very long time 2664 01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,440 and he's 2665 01:47:02,510 --> 01:47:00,719 not finished yet it may be maybe a 2666 01:47:04,669 --> 01:47:02,520 little bit but um from what he was 2667 01:47:06,649 --> 01:47:04,679 telling me just privately it's just it's 2668 01:47:08,270 --> 01:47:06,659 gonna be amazing um some of the stories 2669 01:47:10,129 --> 01:47:08,280 and it could be something that really 2670 01:47:12,050 --> 01:47:10,139 turns out to be really big but I don't 2671 01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:12,060 want to jinx them at all um it's not out 2672 01:47:14,510 --> 01:47:12,960 yet 2673 01:47:16,729 --> 01:47:14,520 um he's very skeptical about the last 2674 01:47:18,169 --> 01:47:16,739 four and a half years but he's like 2675 01:47:20,030 --> 01:47:18,179 abductions are the most important thing 2676 01:47:22,010 --> 01:47:20,040 and I agree if abductions are going on 2677 01:47:24,169 --> 01:47:22,020 which I do think they're going on I just 2678 01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,179 don't know if they're physical 2679 01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:26,639 um it's it's a it's the most one of the 2680 01:47:30,290 --> 01:47:28,320 most important aspects the other aspect 2681 01:47:31,850 --> 01:47:30,300 I would as I talked about today if 2682 01:47:34,430 --> 01:47:31,860 there's something here that's affecting 2683 01:47:36,290 --> 01:47:34,440 us and able to implant memories or 2684 01:47:38,270 --> 01:47:36,300 thoughts in our mind and can influence 2685 01:47:41,689 --> 01:47:38,280 us that would be just as important as 2686 01:47:43,129 --> 01:47:41,699 abductions uh the old slide 9 stuff I 2687 01:47:44,689 --> 01:47:43,139 don't know if that's going on but we've 2688 01:47:46,609 --> 01:47:44,699 heard about it so there's no evidence 2689 01:47:48,649 --> 01:47:46,619 that I've seen of that but it's 2690 01:47:52,550 --> 01:47:48,659 definitely one of my more interesting 2691 01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:52,560 speculation roads I like to go down 2692 01:47:57,050 --> 01:47:54,239 um 2693 01:47:59,270 --> 01:47:57,060 seems like government yeah I do 2694 01:48:00,890 --> 01:47:59,280 slide nine seems like government 2695 01:48:01,930 --> 01:48:00,900 and I think that 2696 01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:01,940 um 2697 01:48:07,490 --> 01:48:06,480 I think sorry I just got Mark Joe I 2698 01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:07,500 think then 2699 01:48:12,109 --> 01:48:10,080 um the abduction phenomenon is possibly 2700 01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:12,119 something if we're going to talk about 2701 01:48:17,930 --> 01:48:15,119 it uh paranormal and something that 2702 01:48:19,729 --> 01:48:17,940 maybe Ultra terrestrial or that's been 2703 01:48:22,729 --> 01:48:19,739 here for a very long time that's messing 2704 01:48:26,330 --> 01:48:22,739 with us and messing with 2705 01:48:29,450 --> 01:48:26,340 um how we perceive reality it goes into 2706 01:48:34,129 --> 01:48:30,050 um 2707 01:48:36,770 --> 01:48:34,139 possession phenomenon and just different 2708 01:48:40,370 --> 01:48:36,780 other areas that kind of bleed into one 2709 01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:40,380 another but I think it's all related 2710 01:48:44,450 --> 01:48:42,239 I agree and I don't agree that David 2711 01:48:45,649 --> 01:48:44,460 Jacobs went crazy but 2712 01:48:52,729 --> 01:48:45,659 um 2713 01:48:54,350 --> 01:48:52,739 that against our will have you heard 2714 01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:54,360 that before 2715 01:48:58,790 --> 01:48:57,840 I haven't seen the title yet okay 2716 01:49:01,609 --> 01:48:58,800 um 2717 01:49:04,370 --> 01:49:01,619 yeah he's an older guy so I'm not going 2718 01:49:07,010 --> 01:49:04,380 to say anything negative about Jacob so 2719 01:49:09,890 --> 01:49:07,020 Gary talked no one talked about a a 2720 01:49:12,410 --> 01:49:09,900 French case uh a valet case where 2721 01:49:15,410 --> 01:49:12,420 this daughter young daughter and her mom 2722 01:49:17,149 --> 01:49:15,420 are driving and nobody saw this UFO that 2723 01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:17,159 was hovering over their car supposedly 2724 01:49:20,570 --> 01:49:18,900 they were seeing it and nobody else on 2725 01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:20,580 the highway seemed to notice it 2726 01:49:23,209 --> 01:49:22,080 I don't know if there was nobody on the 2727 01:49:24,410 --> 01:49:23,219 highway because I've seen cases where 2728 01:49:26,270 --> 01:49:24,420 there like there should be people on the 2729 01:49:27,709 --> 01:49:26,280 highway but there's nobody here they saw 2730 01:49:30,830 --> 01:49:27,719 a craft above their car they took 2731 01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:30,840 pictures and in the picture you know in 2732 01:49:34,510 --> 01:49:32,159 the car they looked up and it was a 2733 01:49:37,370 --> 01:49:34,520 craft in the picture it was a star 2734 01:49:39,950 --> 01:49:37,380 star-shaped object 30 to 30 to 40 feet 2735 01:49:42,649 --> 01:49:39,960 over the car and not a craft 2736 01:49:43,970 --> 01:49:42,659 um so the question is if that's free if 2737 01:49:45,050 --> 01:49:43,980 that's true they saw Kraft but the 2738 01:49:47,689 --> 01:49:45,060 picture showed something totally 2739 01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:47,699 different did they project an image into 2740 01:49:51,229 --> 01:49:49,199 their into their minds and make them see 2741 01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:51,239 a craft when it was actually just a 2742 01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:53,520 star-like object if that's true you know 2743 01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:55,199 you ask the question can they interject 2744 01:49:58,669 --> 01:49:56,639 thoughts into our minds and that's when 2745 01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:58,679 he's like I know it sounds crazy 2746 01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:00,719 um can they project altered reality into 2747 01:50:05,450 --> 01:50:03,840 people's minds and yeah and I'm sure but 2748 01:50:07,850 --> 01:50:05,460 Tucker was like no no no no it's not 2749 01:50:10,129 --> 01:50:07,860 crazy like he was I'm sure like a 2750 01:50:11,689 --> 01:50:10,139 mainstream just news anchor would say 2751 01:50:14,270 --> 01:50:11,699 what are you talking about but you know 2752 01:50:16,490 --> 01:50:14,280 people report that kind of stuff but 2753 01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:16,500 will we see the data to bake back it up 2754 01:50:19,609 --> 01:50:18,000 you know I want to see the picture you 2755 01:50:21,410 --> 01:50:19,619 know I would love to see the picture of 2756 01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:21,420 what they saw of what you know the 2757 01:50:24,290 --> 01:50:23,280 little star-like object and listen to 2758 01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:24,300 the interview you want to hear the 2759 01:50:27,950 --> 01:50:25,679 people who saw this you want to hear 2760 01:50:29,450 --> 01:50:27,960 them you want to hear judge their you 2761 01:50:30,169 --> 01:50:29,460 know their credibility 2762 01:50:32,330 --> 01:50:30,179 um 2763 01:50:34,490 --> 01:50:32,340 then he talked about Usos on the wall on 2764 01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:34,500 on the water submers submersible objects 2765 01:50:39,470 --> 01:50:37,800 and how the sonar shows UFOs goes going 2766 01:50:41,149 --> 01:50:39,480 dozens of times faster than our 2767 01:50:44,030 --> 01:50:41,159 submarines and talked about maybe 2768 01:50:45,410 --> 01:50:44,040 they're using an alcubi air drive to do 2769 01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:45,420 that and that's a question you would 2770 01:50:48,050 --> 01:50:46,800 bring up how does he know that where is 2771 01:50:50,030 --> 01:50:48,060 he gaining that information because I've 2772 01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:50,040 never heard that 2773 01:50:54,410 --> 01:50:51,599 um and then the white matter disease 2774 01:50:56,209 --> 01:50:54,420 which I talked about with Luda 2775 01:50:58,430 --> 01:50:56,219 and yeah he met the people took their 2776 01:51:01,129 --> 01:50:58,440 blood some of them saw objects on the 2777 01:51:03,169 --> 01:51:01,139 ground they had radiation Burns I went 2778 01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:03,179 through all that with Luda 2779 01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:06,000 um and some people not in not in this in 2780 01:51:09,229 --> 01:51:07,679 not in the cases that Nolan studied with 2781 01:51:11,570 --> 01:51:09,239 kid green but in other cases they report 2782 01:51:12,410 --> 01:51:11,580 seeing little Grays 2783 01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:12,420 um 2784 01:51:16,430 --> 01:51:14,239 and then he mentions how we're angry 2785 01:51:18,050 --> 01:51:16,440 monkeys and they would 2786 01:51:20,330 --> 01:51:18,060 he's thinking of speculation maybe 2787 01:51:21,890 --> 01:51:20,340 they're sending an intermediary it 2788 01:51:24,470 --> 01:51:21,900 almost looks like them but isn't them 2789 01:51:26,689 --> 01:51:24,480 and inside the inside community 2790 01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,699 they believe the leading hypothesis is 2791 01:51:31,609 --> 01:51:29,040 most of what we're seeing are avatars 2792 01:51:33,050 --> 01:51:31,619 biological robots put there to be 2793 01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:33,060 minions 2794 01:51:36,830 --> 01:51:34,800 um which is interesting and I would love 2795 01:51:38,270 --> 01:51:36,840 to hear from those people on camera all 2796 01:51:40,669 --> 01:51:38,280 of those let's why did you come to that 2797 01:51:41,870 --> 01:51:40,679 conclusion I mean it's you read John 2798 01:51:43,490 --> 01:51:41,880 keel 2799 01:51:45,770 --> 01:51:43,500 he starts talking about that that was 2800 01:51:46,729 --> 01:51:45,780 1970. 2801 01:51:48,169 --> 01:51:46,739 um 2802 01:51:49,609 --> 01:51:48,179 they don't want to show up and become 2803 01:51:51,050 --> 01:51:49,619 our dinner because you know they want to 2804 01:51:53,629 --> 01:51:51,060 stay out of Harm's Way because we're 2805 01:51:55,129 --> 01:51:53,639 angry dangerous monkeys so 2806 01:51:56,330 --> 01:51:55,139 um we do it we would send drones 2807 01:51:56,930 --> 01:51:56,340 somewhere 2808 01:51:59,149 --> 01:51:56,940 um 2809 01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:59,159 they're sending an avatar and they're 2810 01:52:01,970 --> 01:52:00,960 flying saucers 2811 01:52:03,950 --> 01:52:01,980 um 2812 01:52:06,109 --> 01:52:03,960 I don't and no one says right now he 2813 01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:06,119 goes I look at everything now and I 2814 01:52:09,709 --> 01:52:07,920 wonder what's going on about everything 2815 01:52:11,930 --> 01:52:09,719 on the world because Jess if any of this 2816 01:52:15,169 --> 01:52:11,940 is true you start wondering how much of 2817 01:52:17,209 --> 01:52:15,179 our history was influenced by them if 2818 01:52:20,209 --> 01:52:17,219 they were here in the beginning before 2819 01:52:21,950 --> 01:52:20,219 Humanity you know what role did they 2820 01:52:24,649 --> 01:52:21,960 play how much have they influenced how 2821 01:52:26,270 --> 01:52:24,659 much free will do we really have I mean 2822 01:52:27,410 --> 01:52:26,280 you ever see the movie 2823 01:52:29,450 --> 01:52:27,420 um 2824 01:52:31,550 --> 01:52:29,460 where they influence our lives what was 2825 01:52:33,709 --> 01:52:31,560 it called The Adjustment Bureau which I 2826 01:52:35,570 --> 01:52:33,719 loved is something like that going on on 2827 01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:35,580 some non-physical level and that's talk 2828 01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,199 about woo 2829 01:52:40,970 --> 01:52:38,880 um I've heard somebody talk about some 2830 01:52:44,149 --> 01:52:40,980 of these guys believing that I don't 2831 01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:45,410 um let me see if there's any questions 2832 01:52:49,850 --> 01:52:48,000 see I don't have the pick 2833 01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:49,860 but 2834 01:52:54,109 --> 01:52:52,800 all right anything you might be taking a 2835 01:52:55,149 --> 01:52:54,119 break I'll keep going unless you want to 2836 01:52:57,770 --> 01:52:55,159 chime in 2837 01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:57,780 no you're good I want to hear you talk 2838 01:53:02,750 --> 01:53:00,960 go ahead all right I ran out of iced tea 2839 01:53:04,850 --> 01:53:02,760 Mick from Australia I drink it's 2840 01:53:07,550 --> 01:53:04,860 lemonade and iced tea if you want to 2841 01:53:09,709 --> 01:53:07,560 know um I'm out of it 2842 01:53:11,870 --> 01:53:09,719 Nick needs to jump in like I've been 2843 01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:11,880 waiting for him what's the deal Nick 2844 01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,159 I'll put out I'll put out the um the 2845 01:53:19,250 --> 01:53:16,320 invite again for anybody who wants to 2846 01:53:22,370 --> 01:53:19,260 jump in and I do need to get moderators 2847 01:53:24,290 --> 01:53:22,380 to you know I I blocked two people but I 2848 01:53:26,330 --> 01:53:24,300 don't have to worry about seeing all of 2849 01:53:28,129 --> 01:53:26,340 that so I will get moderators I mean you 2850 01:53:31,370 --> 01:53:28,139 don't have to block anybody let people 2851 01:53:32,990 --> 01:53:31,380 like freely Express their opinions they 2852 01:53:34,910 --> 01:53:33,000 want to call people whatever they want 2853 01:53:37,310 --> 01:53:34,920 just let them do it 2854 01:53:41,209 --> 01:53:37,320 people are we know that you're 2855 01:53:45,050 --> 01:53:41,219 an Joel you said Joel I think I 2856 01:53:46,669 --> 01:53:45,060 mean Joe that's not that is I have 2857 01:53:51,649 --> 01:53:46,679 something in my mouth I'm like I'm 2858 01:53:57,890 --> 01:53:54,649 it's okay Jesse 2859 01:53:59,570 --> 01:53:57,900 see Jesse like I'm not Jesse how dare 2860 01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:59,580 you yeah 2861 01:54:02,510 --> 01:54:00,719 um 2862 01:54:03,950 --> 01:54:02,520 somebody says who will be the first ones 2863 01:54:05,689 --> 01:54:03,960 to testify next year I don't know when 2864 01:54:07,310 --> 01:54:05,699 they're gonna testify I know people 2865 01:54:09,290 --> 01:54:07,320 various people have said 2866 01:54:10,729 --> 01:54:09,300 hearings were coming up real soon which 2867 01:54:13,310 --> 01:54:10,739 I was like I didn't hear anything about 2868 01:54:15,709 --> 01:54:13,320 that and nothing happened so 2869 01:54:18,290 --> 01:54:15,719 um people get excited I think Lou will 2870 01:54:20,030 --> 01:54:18,300 be one of the first people to testify 2871 01:54:21,229 --> 01:54:20,040 um I would love to see Jay Stratton 2872 01:54:22,669 --> 01:54:21,239 testify I don't know if that's going to 2873 01:54:25,070 --> 01:54:22,679 happen 2874 01:54:26,990 --> 01:54:25,080 I don't believe politics left people Lex 2875 01:54:28,490 --> 01:54:27,000 Freeman internet nothing jumps out 2876 01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:28,500 question wise let me know if you see any 2877 01:54:32,209 --> 01:54:30,000 interesting questions 2878 01:54:33,950 --> 01:54:32,219 so 2879 01:54:35,390 --> 01:54:33,960 this could bring all of us together he 2880 01:54:38,290 --> 01:54:35,400 mentions Reagan's speech where he says 2881 01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:38,300 well what would happen if we had some 2882 01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,800 presents from outside this planet that 2883 01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:42,960 threatened all of us we would come 2884 01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:44,820 together 2885 01:54:49,550 --> 01:54:46,800 well 2886 01:54:51,589 --> 01:54:49,560 I've done Reagan for a while Nancy and I 2887 01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:51,599 we had an extraterrestrial over at the 2888 01:54:57,229 --> 01:54:55,199 house we're bipartisan game over this is 2889 01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:57,239 true Bernie Bernie Bernie proves Bernie 2890 01:55:02,030 --> 01:54:58,800 does a proof 2891 01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:02,040 um sorry yeah I hope you do that at the 2892 01:55:07,490 --> 01:55:03,599 end hoping that nobody's gonna listen to 2893 01:55:08,990 --> 01:55:07,500 it good morning it cracks me up man if 2894 01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,000 people only knew the amount of 2895 01:55:14,510 --> 01:55:11,040 Impressions that you could actually do 2896 01:55:16,129 --> 01:55:14,520 this is my Bernie nope nope apparently 2897 01:55:17,450 --> 01:55:16,139 they are I have to do a lot I'll do it 2898 01:55:20,270 --> 01:55:17,460 later at the end 2899 01:55:21,770 --> 01:55:20,280 um and he talks about how the Vatican 2900 01:55:23,689 --> 01:55:21,780 talks about how they can be children of 2901 01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,699 God and we would treat them as equals 2902 01:55:27,950 --> 01:55:26,159 and you know as humans as we would treat 2903 01:55:29,330 --> 01:55:27,960 humans and and I think the Vatican has 2904 01:55:32,689 --> 01:55:29,340 talked about 2905 01:55:34,370 --> 01:55:32,699 baptizing them and you know how will 2906 01:55:36,229 --> 01:55:34,380 humans this is still part of it how will 2907 01:55:37,970 --> 01:55:36,239 humans react if we're not at the top of 2908 01:55:40,490 --> 01:55:37,980 food chain how will that affect religion 2909 01:55:41,810 --> 01:55:40,500 you know who is their God if they come 2910 01:55:43,609 --> 01:55:41,820 down there and they're like you guys 2911 01:55:46,430 --> 01:55:43,619 have no idea what you're talking about 2912 01:55:48,890 --> 01:55:46,440 when it comes to religion and Jesus and 2913 01:55:50,330 --> 01:55:48,900 Buddha not Buddha but you know it's 2914 01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:50,340 totally different and this is how it is 2915 01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:51,599 of course who knows if they're telling 2916 01:55:54,770 --> 01:55:53,520 the truth but it would be an interesting 2917 01:55:57,050 --> 01:55:54,780 conversation you know what kind of 2918 01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:57,060 insight do you guys have that we don't 2919 01:56:01,129 --> 01:55:59,040 all right Gary no one touched on 2920 01:56:04,089 --> 01:56:01,139 religion you really want to go there 2921 01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:04,099 right now I know that he is 2922 01:56:08,510 --> 01:56:06,480 religion how do you I've never heard him 2923 01:56:10,129 --> 01:56:08,520 talk about religion did you say that Joe 2924 01:56:13,250 --> 01:56:10,139 what the hell you talked about the 2925 01:56:15,070 --> 01:56:13,260 Vatican he talked about Diana baselka I 2926 01:56:19,550 --> 01:56:15,080 mean 2927 01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:19,560 towards the end of his conversation he 2928 01:56:23,930 --> 01:56:22,080 said we do not know like you know these 2929 01:56:26,050 --> 01:56:23,940 things could have been here since the 2930 01:56:30,109 --> 01:56:26,060 beginning all of 2931 01:56:33,470 --> 01:56:30,119 across the globe even before abrahamic 2932 01:56:35,229 --> 01:56:33,480 religions there were religions that 2933 01:56:38,330 --> 01:56:35,239 I don't even know if they were called 2934 01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:38,340 religions back then uh that spoke about 2935 01:56:47,089 --> 01:56:45,770 yeah like it is I mean it could be all 2936 01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:47,099 made up like it could be something 2937 01:56:51,290 --> 01:56:48,719 that's just been passed on from 2938 01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:51,300 generation to generation who knows 2939 01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,520 but he did speak about it I don't agree 2940 01:56:56,810 --> 01:56:55,440 and that's why I really can't uh we 2941 01:56:57,950 --> 01:56:56,820 gotta find somebody who's an expert in 2942 01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:57,960 that type of stuff and I know there are 2943 01:57:01,370 --> 01:56:59,520 people out there um 2944 01:57:04,010 --> 01:57:01,380 I mentioned Paul Eno but I don't think 2945 01:57:06,050 --> 01:57:04,020 he focuses on you know religions or 2946 01:57:08,030 --> 01:57:06,060 information before the abrahamic 2947 01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:08,040 religions we'll find somebody like that 2948 01:57:11,870 --> 01:57:09,840 um somebody Ken said Travis Taylor 2949 01:57:13,970 --> 01:57:11,880 impression 2950 01:57:15,229 --> 01:57:13,980 I'll do that at the end with Bernie I'll 2951 01:57:16,490 --> 01:57:15,239 do it at the end 2952 01:57:17,689 --> 01:57:16,500 um hopefully Travis Taylor didn't 2953 01:57:19,550 --> 01:57:17,699 stumble upon this because then I'll 2954 01:57:20,930 --> 01:57:19,560 never be able to interview him question 2955 01:57:22,609 --> 01:57:20,940 for Eric who made the basement office 2956 01:57:24,169 --> 01:57:22,619 take down the Eric Davis interview well 2957 01:57:25,189 --> 01:57:24,179 at the time Stephen Green Street told me 2958 01:57:26,629 --> 01:57:25,199 that there was something in the 2959 01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:26,639 background that gave away personal 2960 01:57:29,689 --> 01:57:28,080 information and that's why they had to 2961 01:57:31,729 --> 01:57:29,699 take it down which was not true because 2962 01:57:34,250 --> 01:57:31,739 when it went back up we compared the two 2963 01:57:36,290 --> 01:57:34,260 and there was nothing different so I 2964 01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:36,300 don't know and I'm and even if I did ask 2965 01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,159 Eric he probably would not know I don't 2966 01:57:43,129 --> 01:57:40,560 think he's speaking with Green Street I 2967 01:57:44,510 --> 01:57:43,139 don't think he knows and and even if he 2968 01:57:45,890 --> 01:57:44,520 did tell me I can't say it I can't talk 2969 01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:45,900 I can't repeat stuff that he said 2970 01:57:49,250 --> 01:57:47,520 because it would be considered talking 2971 01:57:50,450 --> 01:57:49,260 to the media and Aerospace is not 2972 01:57:52,850 --> 01:57:50,460 letting him do that unfortunately 2973 01:57:54,470 --> 01:57:52,860 because he would be on with Gary Nolan 2974 01:57:57,470 --> 01:57:54,480 on Tucker doing whatever shows although 2975 01:57:58,850 --> 01:57:57,480 I'm not sure if I mean I think Gary had 2976 01:58:01,550 --> 01:57:58,860 to think long and hard about doing 2977 01:58:02,750 --> 01:58:01,560 Tucker Carlson because Gary you know 2978 01:58:04,189 --> 01:58:02,760 I think he's totally opposite 2979 01:58:06,770 --> 01:58:04,199 politically but this is more important 2980 01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:06,780 in politics as somebody said in here 2981 01:58:11,450 --> 01:58:07,920 um 2982 01:58:13,850 --> 01:58:11,460 I would like to say to Gary Nolan that 2983 01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:13,860 regardless of the questions that I have 2984 01:58:20,089 --> 01:58:16,260 asked about him and his opinion his 2985 01:58:25,250 --> 01:58:20,099 views I respect what he is trying to do 2986 01:58:29,089 --> 01:58:25,260 and I really do respect how devoted and 2987 01:58:32,089 --> 01:58:29,099 dedicated he is to the subject so I stay 2988 01:58:36,290 --> 01:58:32,099 there across the board believer skeptic 2989 01:58:39,109 --> 01:58:36,300 whatever you are you are contributing to 2990 01:58:40,970 --> 01:58:39,119 a whatever we're trying to find out 2991 01:58:42,470 --> 01:58:40,980 so good for you Gary 2992 01:58:43,250 --> 01:58:42,480 he's one of my favorite people in the 2993 01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:43,260 field 2994 01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:44,880 um so with some events some event 2995 01:58:49,910 --> 01:58:47,520 although I I disagreed with I was 2996 01:58:51,050 --> 01:58:49,920 getting a little annoyed and I messaged 2997 01:58:52,970 --> 01:58:51,060 you today when I was listening to 2998 01:58:55,850 --> 01:58:52,980 semivan's interview um I would like to 2999 01:58:57,470 --> 01:58:55,860 interview and push back a little bit 3000 01:58:58,970 --> 01:58:57,480 um I don't really see anybody pushing 3001 01:59:01,550 --> 01:58:58,980 back on him very much 3002 01:59:03,050 --> 01:59:01,560 um wasn't major disagreements but I 3003 01:59:04,850 --> 01:59:03,060 don't really want to talk about it and 3004 01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:04,860 show my hand I would like to interview 3005 01:59:09,410 --> 01:59:07,199 him if he'll let me and just push back a 3006 01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:09,420 little bit on some stuff not a lot I 3007 01:59:13,790 --> 01:59:11,040 mean 3008 01:59:16,430 --> 01:59:13,800 um so 3009 01:59:18,109 --> 01:59:16,440 how will all right so government might 3010 01:59:20,030 --> 01:59:18,119 feel hesitant to left this information 3011 01:59:21,709 --> 01:59:20,040 out if it's something like us not being 3012 01:59:23,450 --> 01:59:21,719 the top of the food chain and Tucker 3013 01:59:25,310 --> 01:59:23,460 mentioned how it might be destabilizing 3014 01:59:27,649 --> 01:59:25,320 and Nolan talked about his colleagues 3015 01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:27,659 and you know 3016 01:59:31,729 --> 01:59:30,000 they say well if Gary Nolan thinks it's 3017 01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:31,739 real maybe I should be paying attention 3018 01:59:35,209 --> 01:59:33,599 to it which is pretty cool 3019 01:59:37,129 --> 01:59:35,219 um you know they'll go out to dinner and 3020 01:59:38,330 --> 01:59:37,139 after a drink once they feel comfortable 3021 01:59:40,370 --> 01:59:38,340 and they're not going to be judged 3022 01:59:42,890 --> 01:59:40,380 they'll share their stories and 3023 01:59:44,570 --> 01:59:42,900 he he went on to talk about he didn't in 3024 01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:44,580 the beginning he talked about how he saw 3025 01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,320 something in Connecticut as a paper boy 3026 01:59:50,450 --> 01:59:48,480 delivering the Hartford current how they 3027 01:59:51,770 --> 01:59:50,460 had a bonding moment over that he was 3028 01:59:53,330 --> 01:59:51,780 walking in the woods and it was above 3029 01:59:55,250 --> 01:59:53,340 the top of the trees right over his head 3030 01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:55,260 it had lights it was 30 to 40 feet 3031 01:59:59,330 --> 01:59:57,599 across the time he didn't call it a UFO 3032 02:00:00,530 --> 01:59:59,340 he didn't know what it was and he goes 3033 02:00:02,330 --> 02:00:00,540 something like that changes your life 3034 02:00:04,790 --> 02:00:02,340 puts things in perspective it's kind of 3035 02:00:06,890 --> 02:00:04,800 like a spiritual experience 3036 02:00:08,930 --> 02:00:06,900 um his goal is to help other experiences 3037 02:00:10,790 --> 02:00:08,940 you know protect them who have you know 3038 02:00:12,770 --> 02:00:10,800 people who have seen something and 3039 02:00:14,510 --> 02:00:12,780 don't attack those folks for sharing 3040 02:00:16,189 --> 02:00:14,520 their stories I see that a lot on social 3041 02:00:17,570 --> 02:00:16,199 media even you know some of them are 3042 02:00:19,850 --> 02:00:17,580 delusional of course just like with 3043 02:00:21,290 --> 02:00:19,860 anything but most are not he praised Lou 3044 02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:21,300 and melon in the work they've done a lot 3045 02:00:24,470 --> 02:00:22,800 of people will never know what they did 3046 02:00:26,089 --> 02:00:24,480 behind the scenes he mentioned the 3047 02:00:28,129 --> 02:00:26,099 Trinity case with Jacques ballet and 3048 02:00:29,810 --> 02:00:28,139 Paula Harris which I have the book and I 3049 02:00:32,089 --> 02:00:29,820 have the original book 3050 02:00:33,530 --> 02:00:32,099 from the library which I'm charged 100 3051 02:00:34,970 --> 02:00:33,540 bucks because I never gave it back 3052 02:00:36,709 --> 02:00:34,980 because I want to read it it's from one 3053 02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:36,719 of the kids he wrote it 3054 02:00:40,189 --> 02:00:38,880 um and I want to interview valet I need 3055 02:00:43,010 --> 02:00:40,199 to read it first I don't want to go in 3056 02:00:44,510 --> 02:00:43,020 blind uh and then one of my most 3057 02:00:46,070 --> 02:00:44,520 interesting comments it might have been 3058 02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:46,080 from Tucker he's like you know if this 3059 02:00:50,030 --> 02:00:48,719 is true what else don't we know and no 3060 02:00:51,169 --> 02:00:50,040 one's like yeah it's a great point and 3061 02:00:52,669 --> 02:00:51,179 he didn't want to go into it but you 3062 02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:52,679 know you start getting into PSI and 3063 02:00:56,990 --> 02:00:54,960 remote viewing and mediums and all that 3064 02:00:58,790 --> 02:00:57,000 stuff and Gary Nolan said 3065 02:01:00,530 --> 02:00:58,800 you know reality is much different and 3066 02:01:02,089 --> 02:01:00,540 I'm not quoting him here but reality is 3067 02:01:03,290 --> 02:01:02,099 much different than we understand and I 3068 02:01:05,629 --> 02:01:03,300 think that's going to be the most 3069 02:01:08,330 --> 02:01:05,639 difficult thing for most mainstream 3070 02:01:10,550 --> 02:01:08,340 scientists to understand or grasp if 3071 02:01:11,930 --> 02:01:10,560 it's something so far out there if it's 3072 02:01:14,209 --> 02:01:11,940 and I don't like using the quantum 3073 02:01:16,129 --> 02:01:14,219 physics catch-all word but something 3074 02:01:18,229 --> 02:01:16,139 that just blows our mind away like Lou 3075 02:01:20,270 --> 02:01:18,239 says you know one object you know a cat 3076 02:01:22,070 --> 02:01:20,280 goes in comes out two dogs stuff like 3077 02:01:23,390 --> 02:01:22,080 that where we're just you know if 3078 02:01:25,729 --> 02:01:23,400 there's evidence we can prove that you 3079 02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:25,739 know we talk about Aguadilla which I 3080 02:01:28,910 --> 02:01:27,119 still don't know about Aguadilla I mean 3081 02:01:30,890 --> 02:01:28,920 there's different opinions all over the 3082 02:01:33,109 --> 02:01:30,900 board but it shows one object and then 3083 02:01:34,790 --> 02:01:33,119 it devises it appears to divide into two 3084 02:01:36,290 --> 02:01:34,800 is that what we're seeing you know is 3085 02:01:37,490 --> 02:01:36,300 that some sort of quantum physics thing 3086 02:01:39,589 --> 02:01:37,500 I don't know maybe it's just a maybe 3087 02:01:41,450 --> 02:01:39,599 it's just some sort of Illusion let me 3088 02:01:43,189 --> 02:01:41,460 just check this let me know if you see 3089 02:01:46,010 --> 02:01:43,199 any questions just because I'm not able 3090 02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:46,020 to look at both I have to pull it across 3091 02:01:50,990 --> 02:01:48,960 um Aguadilla case is one of those cases 3092 02:01:53,330 --> 02:01:51,000 that's on my top 3093 02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:53,340 5 radar 3094 02:02:03,830 --> 02:02:01,250 I've only recently heard people try to 3095 02:02:05,629 --> 02:02:03,840 debunk it so 3096 02:02:08,089 --> 02:02:05,639 yeah I mean I mean it's still out there 3097 02:02:09,649 --> 02:02:08,099 until it's like concrete for me they may 3098 02:02:11,390 --> 02:02:09,659 not be dividing I've never made a big 3099 02:02:13,370 --> 02:02:11,400 deal but I would I really don't talk 3100 02:02:15,709 --> 02:02:13,380 about it too much I mean 3101 02:02:17,750 --> 02:02:15,719 I don't really talk about too many 3102 02:02:19,370 --> 02:02:17,760 videos I'm not really good with videos 3103 02:02:25,390 --> 02:02:19,380 and none of them have been that 3104 02:02:30,890 --> 02:02:28,490 a good buddy of mine was part of Mensa 3105 02:02:34,970 --> 02:02:30,900 part of um 3106 02:02:38,990 --> 02:02:34,980 the guys that were viewing it uh he sent 3107 02:02:41,450 --> 02:02:39,000 it to me I mean I was baffled I said I'm 3108 02:02:44,510 --> 02:02:41,460 not I'm gonna withhold judgment until 3109 02:02:46,729 --> 02:02:44,520 other people review it I've I've seen 3110 02:02:48,589 --> 02:02:46,739 sense people saying that it's seagulls 3111 02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:48,599 people say this this or that but 3112 02:02:52,370 --> 02:02:50,400 nothing's concrete you know it could be 3113 02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:52,380 anomalous who knows 3114 02:02:59,390 --> 02:02:58,070 yeah I would love for it to be anomalous 3115 02:03:01,070 --> 02:02:59,400 I don't know 3116 02:03:03,649 --> 02:03:01,080 um 3117 02:03:05,810 --> 02:03:03,659 let's see the biggest problem is we need 3118 02:03:07,370 --> 02:03:05,820 funding obviously it's been a problem 3119 02:03:08,810 --> 02:03:07,380 you know people aren't going to get 3120 02:03:10,729 --> 02:03:08,820 interested in this I think it was um I 3121 02:03:13,729 --> 02:03:10,739 forget who said that it was 3122 02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:13,739 during that event in Texas who was it it 3123 02:03:18,109 --> 02:03:15,119 was the guy who writes with Whitley 3124 02:03:19,310 --> 02:03:18,119 strieber the supernatural I forget his 3125 02:03:20,510 --> 02:03:19,320 name anyway he's like yeah funding 3126 02:03:21,770 --> 02:03:20,520 scientists don't want to get involved 3127 02:03:23,030 --> 02:03:21,780 unless there's funding and he mentioned 3128 02:03:24,890 --> 02:03:23,040 Nolan mentioned the Congressional 3129 02:03:26,810 --> 02:03:24,900 language talking about how we need to 3130 02:03:29,030 --> 02:03:26,820 have scientists and academics to involve 3131 02:03:30,770 --> 02:03:29,040 to advise Intel agencies on these things 3132 02:03:32,330 --> 02:03:30,780 yeah we need I wish it would be a 3133 02:03:34,250 --> 02:03:32,340 worldwide effort not just a United 3134 02:03:36,950 --> 02:03:34,260 States American scientists and academic 3135 02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:36,960 gimmicks but that's a good start 3136 02:03:41,149 --> 02:03:38,400 um because right now it's such a small 3137 02:03:43,370 --> 02:03:41,159 amount of people you know Nolan semivan 3138 02:03:46,010 --> 02:03:43,380 and semian's not a scientist 3139 02:03:47,810 --> 02:03:46,020 talks about silos and stovepipes so you 3140 02:03:49,250 --> 02:03:47,820 know that needs to be addressed and we 3141 02:03:51,050 --> 02:03:49,260 need to declassify this is kind of 3142 02:03:52,790 --> 02:03:51,060 depressing they classify enough so we 3143 02:03:55,129 --> 02:03:52,800 can study it in other words 3144 02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:55,139 full declassification is not coming in 3145 02:03:58,729 --> 02:03:57,119 my lifetime most likely 3146 02:04:01,189 --> 02:03:58,739 um and you know studied enough first 3147 02:04:03,589 --> 02:04:01,199 studied it enough study it enough first 3148 02:04:05,209 --> 02:04:03,599 for country and then for the planet 3149 02:04:07,370 --> 02:04:05,219 uh he thinks there's more than one thing 3150 02:04:08,990 --> 02:04:07,380 here 3151 02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:09,000 lost Jeff's again 3152 02:04:12,649 --> 02:04:10,320 um he thinks 3153 02:04:13,970 --> 02:04:12,659 he thinks there's maybe one then more 3154 02:04:16,609 --> 02:04:13,980 than one thing here maybe different 3155 02:04:18,410 --> 02:04:16,619 groups are this is interesting maybe 3156 02:04:20,450 --> 02:04:18,420 different groups are here in some kind 3157 02:04:21,890 --> 02:04:20,460 of tension which Delong has spoken about 3158 02:04:24,709 --> 02:04:21,900 different groups battling with each 3159 02:04:28,310 --> 02:04:24,719 other and we're kind of in the middle 3160 02:04:31,490 --> 02:04:28,320 are you there Jess no there you are yeah 3161 02:04:33,169 --> 02:04:31,500 I'm sorry you talked about how there's 3162 02:04:34,490 --> 02:04:33,179 more than one thing here and possibly 3163 02:04:36,830 --> 02:04:34,500 different groups are in some sort of 3164 02:04:38,750 --> 02:04:36,840 tension with each other and but there's 3165 02:04:40,910 --> 02:04:38,760 no unifying motivation for why they're 3166 02:04:42,709 --> 02:04:40,920 as far as related to us and Delong has 3167 02:04:44,810 --> 02:04:42,719 spoken about that how there's warring 3168 02:04:46,550 --> 02:04:44,820 factions and Linda Moulton Howe has 3169 02:04:48,169 --> 02:04:46,560 spoken about that and 3170 02:04:49,790 --> 02:04:48,179 maybe there's some sort of battle going 3171 02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:49,800 on the battle in heaven and we're just 3172 02:04:54,709 --> 02:04:52,320 the pawns or we're irrelevant who knows 3173 02:04:56,330 --> 02:04:54,719 I mean but I've heard that before with 3174 02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:56,340 Congress they're telling the dod enough 3175 02:05:00,350 --> 02:04:58,079 is enough 3176 02:05:01,669 --> 02:05:00,360 now they've seen some of them have come 3177 02:05:03,169 --> 02:05:01,679 out of the classified briefings our 3178 02:05:03,950 --> 02:05:03,179 members of Congress and their eyes are 3179 02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:03,960 wide 3180 02:05:07,069 --> 02:05:05,520 you know 3181 02:05:08,689 --> 02:05:07,079 and those members of Congress have seen 3182 02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:08,699 things that no one hasn't seen so he 3183 02:05:13,189 --> 02:05:11,040 doesn't have that clearance DOD I think 3184 02:05:15,050 --> 02:05:13,199 a lot of what Nolan hears and talks 3185 02:05:16,910 --> 02:05:15,060 about is related to people sharing 3186 02:05:18,589 --> 02:05:16,920 information I mean you know so that's 3187 02:05:19,850 --> 02:05:18,599 why he says I need to see it though just 3188 02:05:21,169 --> 02:05:19,860 because I have an opinion doesn't mean 3189 02:05:23,510 --> 02:05:21,179 it's true 3190 02:05:25,010 --> 02:05:23,520 uh DOD needs to document this is what 3191 02:05:28,850 --> 02:05:25,020 Congress is telling them to do what to 3192 02:05:30,229 --> 02:05:28,860 do obfuscation disinformation and 3193 02:05:32,689 --> 02:05:30,239 um you know people's lives and careers 3194 02:05:34,370 --> 02:05:32,699 were ruined or derailed over the years I 3195 02:05:35,870 --> 02:05:34,380 haven't seen evidence of that but I'm 3196 02:05:37,370 --> 02:05:35,880 willing to look 3197 02:05:39,410 --> 02:05:37,380 um we've heard about that for a long 3198 02:05:40,910 --> 02:05:39,420 time any steady briefed gallery on the 3199 02:05:42,890 --> 02:05:40,920 subject which included the Wilson Davis 3200 02:05:45,050 --> 02:05:42,900 memo and I did confirm 3201 02:05:48,229 --> 02:05:45,060 for the show that he was talking 100 3202 02:05:51,470 --> 02:05:48,239 about Wilson Davis memo 3203 02:05:53,689 --> 02:05:51,480 um and something you know it was open to 3204 02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:53,699 to other stuff uh when he when he said 3205 02:05:56,569 --> 02:05:54,960 it on Tucker 3206 02:05:58,669 --> 02:05:56,579 and they're taking this seriously you 3207 02:06:01,370 --> 02:05:58,679 know members of Congress and then 3208 02:06:05,330 --> 02:06:01,380 I talked about Bert chat in his text 3209 02:06:08,830 --> 02:06:05,340 and that is it so 3210 02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:08,840 any thoughts just that I have missed 3211 02:06:14,089 --> 02:06:11,280 nope I think that we have covered 3212 02:06:15,490 --> 02:06:14,099 everything tonight so let's go ahead and 3213 02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:15,500 Buzz it out 3214 02:06:23,270 --> 02:06:19,040 I will just give people my information 3215 02:06:24,129 --> 02:06:23,280 just as information is go kick rocks 3216 02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:24,139 um 3217 02:06:31,609 --> 02:06:28,560 my PayPal is that 3218 02:06:34,189 --> 02:06:31,619 my venmo is that let me see if I can get 3219 02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:37,850 patreon is that and somebody asked me 3220 02:06:45,229 --> 02:06:41,280 for my email oh no no my screen name 3221 02:06:51,530 --> 02:06:49,010 at so that's my blog which has a ton of 3222 02:06:53,330 --> 02:06:51,540 stuff on there and I'm just put a long 3223 02:06:55,069 --> 02:06:53,340 Lou Elizondo transcript on there which 3224 02:06:57,290 --> 02:06:55,079 is one of my better ones I added a lot 3225 02:06:59,689 --> 02:06:57,300 of stuff to the transcript and then 3226 02:07:02,149 --> 02:06:59,699 I'm working on Ryan Graves notes 3227 02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:02,159 transcript for Twitter and then 3228 02:07:08,089 --> 02:07:04,920 Gary Nolan on Tucker that transcript for 3229 02:07:10,669 --> 02:07:08,099 my blog and I think that's it I'll let 3230 02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:10,679 you go Jess have a good night 3231 02:07:16,129 --> 02:07:13,679 thank you for being here uh good night 3232 02:07:19,069 --> 02:07:16,139 Joe good night everybody who showed up 3233 02:07:21,649 --> 02:07:19,079 uh thanks you guys for being here it was 3234 02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:21,659 fun we'll be yeah we'll do it next time 3235 02:07:24,770 --> 02:07:23,280 with Michael Vai you can ask him a 3236 02:07:29,089 --> 02:07:24,780 thousand questions we'll do a 12-hour 3237 02:07:33,109 --> 02:07:31,250 I guess so it would be like so guys so 3238 02:07:34,609 --> 02:07:33,119 God damn Jazz I gotta come down to 3239 02:07:36,290 --> 02:07:34,619 Alabama and see you I'm gonna bring 3240 02:07:37,669 --> 02:07:36,300 Bernie with me Bernie and I are going to 3241 02:07:40,430 --> 02:07:37,679 talk about how UFOs come from another 3242 02:07:42,169 --> 02:07:40,440 galaxy it is true that God of your 3243 02:07:44,270 --> 02:07:42,179 faults are coming from another galaxy 3244 02:07:46,669 --> 02:07:44,280 they don't get here using propulsion 3245 02:07:49,010 --> 02:07:46,679 that I understand but my wife and 3246 02:07:50,569 --> 02:07:49,020 barack's kids Malaya I don't know his 3247 02:07:52,250 --> 02:07:50,579 other kid's name I never do I don't 3248 02:07:54,890 --> 02:07:52,260 think he does and that's how we're gonna 3249 02:07:57,310 --> 02:07:54,900 do it we're gonna go to Hillary and UFOs 3250 02:07:59,750 --> 02:07:57,320 over you that's it 3251 02:08:02,930 --> 02:07:59,760 all right I love your impressions if 3252 02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:02,940 they're lost on anybody them well 3253 02:08:10,729 --> 02:08:06,480 my favorite meme is uh Dave Chappelle's 3254 02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:10,739 when he was doing the uh Pop Copy have 3255 02:08:16,609 --> 02:08:12,960 you ever seen that he goes you know what 3256 02:08:18,890 --> 02:08:16,619 him that's why so I mean it's great 3257 02:08:21,050 --> 02:08:18,900 Joe I just lost my YouTube channel to 3258 02:08:23,990 --> 02:08:21,060 cursing thank you have a good night no 3259 02:08:27,550 --> 02:08:24,000 it'll be fine it'll be fine thanks for 3260 02:08:31,550 --> 02:08:30,589 all right a little over two hours thanks 3261 02:08:32,870 --> 02:08:31,560 everybody 3262 02:08:35,629 --> 02:08:32,880 um 3263 02:08:37,250 --> 02:08:35,639 that was good A little heated 3264 02:08:39,530 --> 02:08:37,260 um I gotta remember not even to get 3265 02:08:42,169 --> 02:08:39,540 worked up about anything but just as 3266 02:08:44,990 --> 02:08:42,179 good at getting me worked up 3267 02:08:48,649 --> 02:08:45,000 um at least Twitter I can think before I 3268 02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:51,550 am I the only on this channel for 3269 02:08:57,050 --> 02:08:54,960 uh cookie was digging Cookie's gone I 3270 02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,060 gotta find him 3271 02:09:01,970 --> 02:08:59,520 all right I think I'm gonna schedule 3272 02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:01,980 something with Michael he wants to 3273 02:09:05,330 --> 02:09:03,840 follow up on this which if he does it's 3274 02:09:07,729 --> 02:09:05,340 gonna have to be him I've kind of talked 3275 02:09:11,450 --> 02:09:07,739 myself out but I can always add more and 3276 02:09:13,850 --> 02:09:11,460 then we're going to do the show on on 3277 02:09:15,410 --> 02:09:13,860 Paul Hill unconventional flying objects 3278 02:09:17,089 --> 02:09:15,420 who worked at Langley NASA and wasn't 3279 02:09:19,189 --> 02:09:17,099 able to publish his book until he died 3280 02:09:21,050 --> 02:09:19,199 and then his daughter published it and 3281 02:09:23,569 --> 02:09:21,060 Michael has a whole blog which I'm going 3282 02:09:26,209 --> 02:09:23,579 to put up before we go live so cookie is 3283 02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:26,219 a maltipoo he's 11 years old he has not 3284 02:09:29,569 --> 02:09:28,320 slowed down at all he barks he jumps all 3285 02:09:31,129 --> 02:09:29,579 over the place 3286 02:09:33,229 --> 02:09:31,139 he hasn't hit a wall yet you know 3287 02:09:34,910 --> 02:09:33,239 usually they slow down he has it yet he 3288 02:09:36,490 --> 02:09:34,920 tore both of his ligaments in his back 3289 02:09:38,510 --> 02:09:36,500 knees we used 3290 02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,520 homeopathic medicine instead of surgery 3291 02:09:43,250 --> 02:09:40,320 to fix it and they both healed on their 3292 02:09:44,750 --> 02:09:43,260 own which was amazing we saw we saved 3293 02:09:46,250 --> 02:09:44,760 like eight thousand dollars which I 3294 02:09:46,970 --> 02:09:46,260 didn't have 3295 02:09:49,850 --> 02:09:46,980 um 3296 02:09:51,050 --> 02:09:49,860 yeah I'd like to see your dog 3297 02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:51,060 um I don't know how you do that you have 3298 02:09:54,589 --> 02:09:52,560 to join you have to join in the show one 3299 02:09:56,030 --> 02:09:54,599 day Vancouver guy which is one of my 3300 02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:56,040 favorite Canadian cities I've been there 3301 02:09:59,030 --> 02:09:57,119 for 3302 02:10:00,530 --> 02:09:59,040 I was like a meditation I shot a whole 3303 02:10:03,470 --> 02:10:00,540 week-long meditation conference I used 3304 02:10:04,850 --> 02:10:03,480 to shoot anyway I got a drink DJ Plum 3305 02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:04,860 thanks for jumping in 3306 02:10:08,750 --> 02:10:06,480 and Ludacris I don't know if he's still 3307 02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:08,760 here thank you for being here and once 3308 02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:11,280 again yeah vet bills can be expensive I 3309 02:10:15,109 --> 02:10:13,440 got a lot of them 3310 02:10:18,050 --> 02:10:15,119 post a 3311 02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:18,060 so what is that post oh I posted an app 3312 02:10:21,770 --> 02:10:19,920 I see to your Twitter 3313 02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:21,780 I don't know what that is 3314 02:10:24,350 --> 02:10:23,520 but I will look for it 3315 02:10:27,890 --> 02:10:24,360 um 3316 02:10:31,430 --> 02:10:27,900 what else was I going to say about 3317 02:10:34,669 --> 02:10:31,440 I was going to say something and now 3318 02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:34,679 I can't remember what I was going to say 3319 02:10:37,609 --> 02:10:36,480 um people jumping in on here oh yeah 3320 02:10:38,209 --> 02:10:37,619 yeah yeah 3321 02:10:39,890 --> 02:10:38,219 um 3322 02:10:41,930 --> 02:10:39,900 the super sticker I got one super 3323 02:10:43,129 --> 02:10:41,940 sticker I am not somebody that gets a 3324 02:10:45,229 --> 02:10:43,139 lot of 3325 02:10:47,629 --> 02:10:45,239 I don't ever want to do the super chat 3326 02:10:49,069 --> 02:10:47,639 you ask a question you can pay me for 3327 02:10:51,050 --> 02:10:49,079 I'll never do that 3328 02:10:53,990 --> 02:10:51,060 it would be nice if people supported 3329 02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:54,000 with whatever they can but I'm still 3330 02:10:57,709 --> 02:10:55,440 gonna keep doing it 3331 02:10:59,870 --> 02:10:57,719 um no matter what Tammy was the Super 3332 02:11:01,370 --> 02:10:59,880 sticker obviously don't do this for 3333 02:11:02,930 --> 02:11:01,380 money but I need money to keep doing it 3334 02:11:07,250 --> 02:11:02,940 full time which I'm not doing right now 3335 02:11:10,850 --> 02:11:07,260 I am working part-time I I finished um 3336 02:11:12,910 --> 02:11:10,860 I finished oh a picture I got it got it 3337 02:11:15,350 --> 02:11:12,920 picture your dog 3338 02:11:16,850 --> 02:11:15,360 what milk this will save my Yorkie from 3339 02:11:18,530 --> 02:11:16,860 a rat poison liver failure if it ever 3340 02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:18,540 happens to anyone I did use milk thistle 3341 02:11:22,490 --> 02:11:20,159 for cookie for I forget what he was 3342 02:11:24,649 --> 02:11:22,500 having rash and then he started smelling 3343 02:11:26,390 --> 02:11:24,659 like pee so I looked it up and it was a 3344 02:11:27,950 --> 02:11:26,400 side effect of milk thistle that'll 3345 02:11:29,089 --> 02:11:27,960 smell like urine so I stopped it and it 3346 02:11:31,490 --> 02:11:29,099 worked 3347 02:11:32,930 --> 02:11:31,500 um so anyway yeah that was good I was 3348 02:11:35,149 --> 02:11:32,940 gonna say um 3349 02:11:37,490 --> 02:11:35,159 I am doing silk Sonic which is Bruno 3350 02:11:38,930 --> 02:11:37,500 Mars side project I think I'm doing that 3351 02:11:40,250 --> 02:11:38,940 Wednesday Friday Saturday and then after 3352 02:11:41,390 --> 02:11:40,260 that I have a break so I could focus 3353 02:11:43,490 --> 02:11:41,400 more on that 3354 02:11:44,930 --> 02:11:43,500 and then Aerosmith hopefully coming up I 3355 02:11:47,750 --> 02:11:44,940 have not been booked for that and then 3356 02:11:50,450 --> 02:11:47,760 maybe Usher again which his songs are 3357 02:11:53,689 --> 02:11:50,460 finally leaving my head thank God I mean 3358 02:11:55,970 --> 02:11:53,699 I like the songs but not 24 7. all right